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abstract/compromise working spaces
there may be a lack of colorimetric working spaces in the image
manipulation programs I currently know spaces uvL,xyY,XYZ,CIECAM,CIELUV,CIELAB, etc. are more device independent and more relational to vision, manipulation algorithms are more related to vision in this case, and you could use an monitor on/off profile to see what you are doing I see the value of a output device working space in addition to a monitor profile for hard proofing, something you can get your hands on I see the value monitor device working space for soft proofing, something you can see I see the value of abstract/compromise working spaces for consumer use, until the systems catch up to professional I see the value of more abstract/compromise working spaces for professional digital capture paradigms that can't be characterized, like no time to capture a target and measure it for the particular scene(s) being captured is it just my distance from the industry or is colorimetry still something that it being avoided? -- Dale http://www.dalekelly.org |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:48:15 -0400, Dale wrote:
there may be a lack of colorimetric working spaces in the image manipulation programs I currently know spaces uvL,xyY,XYZ,CIECAM,CIELUV,CIELAB, etc. are more device independent and more relational to vision, manipulation algorithms are more related to vision in this case, and you could use an monitor on/off profile to see what you are doing I see the value of a output device working space in addition to a monitor profile for hard proofing, something you can get your hands on I see the value monitor device working space for soft proofing, something you can see I see the value of abstract/compromise working spaces for consumer use, until the systems catch up to professional I see the value of more abstract/compromise working spaces for professional digital capture paradigms that can't be characterized, like no time to capture a target and measure it for the particular scene(s) being captured is it just my distance from the industry or is colorimetry still something that it being avoided? What exactly do you mean by 'colorimetry' and 'avoided' in this context? -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On 10/14/2015 07:47 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:48:15 -0400, Dale wrote: there may be a lack of colorimetric working spaces in the image manipulation programs I currently know spaces uvL,xyY,XYZ,CIECAM,CIELUV,CIELAB, etc. are more device independent and more relational to vision, manipulation algorithms are more related to vision in this case, and you could use an monitor on/off profile to see what you are doing I see the value of a output device working space in addition to a monitor profile for hard proofing, something you can get your hands on I see the value monitor device working space for soft proofing, something you can see I see the value of abstract/compromise working spaces for consumer use, until the systems catch up to professional I see the value of more abstract/compromise working spaces for professional digital capture paradigms that can't be characterized, like no time to capture a target and measure it for the particular scene(s) being captured is it just my distance from the industry or is colorimetry still something that it being avoided? What exactly do you mean by 'colorimetry' and 'avoided' in this context? I was defining colorimetry as the eye sees it and systems who try to provide the eye imagery, like CIE, probably should have added HSL/HSV/HSB as color spaces more suitable for selection I didn't define "avoid", but most often I have seen things like sRGB being used as a color standard, instead of using something like CIECAM I realize the rods of the eye are close to RGB sensitivity, but device manufacturers maybe trying to set their device/filters/etc. as the standard RGB and avoid the rigor of spectral or colorimetric software algorithms poised toward LMS, embedded or not the sRGB video standard is setup for monitors/cameras and easy translation, for consumer applications who prefer "pleasing" images over accurate images this seems to have worked since video standard has been around a long while if I was a professional and was going to manipulate an image, or sell my services delivering the image based on some kind of approval, I would rather start with an accurate image maybe its over-engineering, and good enough color might just really be good enough color, but Windows Vista has CIECAM in the OS -- Dale http://www.dalekelly.org |
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