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Any currrent raw batch converter like old Bibble(v4) or CaptureOne?
To date I've used RawShooterEssentials, PSCS2, CatpureNX, PSE6&11,
Bibble4&5, AfterShotPro to convert raw files from my Nikon D70/200/300. I initially found RawShooter's work flow to suit me. When I got a newer unsupported camera I demoed CaptureOne and Bibble4. Bibble won due to a bug in CaptureOne sending deleted files to the Recycle bin overriding every system setting to not use the Recycle bin in XP64, as the work flows were nearly identical. Then everyone added cataloging capability to their batch converters. I got free upgrade to Bibble5 , but went back the v4. When Corel bought out BibbleLabs, I grabbed a copy of that for $20. Still went back to B4. I don't need or want cataloging and any additional steps/issues associated with it's inclusion. I want a program which stays in single image mode after selecting multiple files, but allows changes to all selected files as well. Making changes to one file of a group of similar shots and then copying/pasting creates additional work. Made even more so by some programs desire to automatically switch to multi-image preview when multiple files are selected (current CaptureOne). I also don't want to have to import images into some database I have no use for. I'm thinking I'm stuck, unless someone has a suggestion I'm not aware of. Any ideas? |
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Any currrent raw batch converter like old Bibble(v4) or CaptureOne?
me wrote:
To date I've used RawShooterEssentials, PSCS2, CatpureNX, PSE6&11, Bibble4&5, AfterShotPro to convert raw files from my Nikon D70/200/300. I initially found RawShooter's work flow to suit me. When I got a newer unsupported camera I demoed CaptureOne and Bibble4. Bibble won due to a bug in CaptureOne sending deleted files to the Recycle bin overriding every system setting to not use the Recycle bin in XP64, as the work flows were nearly identical. Then everyone added cataloging capability to their batch converters. I got free upgrade to Bibble5 , but went back the v4. When Corel bought out BibbleLabs, I grabbed a copy of that for $20. Still went back to B4. I don't need or want cataloging and any additional steps/issues associated with it's inclusion. I want a program which stays in single image mode after selecting multiple files, but allows changes to all selected files as well. Making changes to one file of a group of similar shots and then copying/pasting creates additional work. Made even more so by some programs desire to automatically switch to multi-image preview when multiple files are selected (current CaptureOne). I also don't want to have to import images into some database I have no use for. I'm thinking I'm stuck, unless someone has a suggestion I'm not aware of. Any ideas? -- Savageduck It sounds like you need to try Lightroom. Regardless of your feelings regarding catalogs/libraries/databases, one of Lightroom's most powerful features is its batch processing and syncing capability. |
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Any currrent raw batch converter like old Bibble(v4) or CaptureOne?
me wrote:
To date I've used RawShooterEssentials, PSCS2, CatpureNX, PSE6&11, Bibble4&5, AfterShotPro to convert raw files from my Nikon D70/200/300. I initially found RawShooter's work flow to suit me. When I got a newer unsupported camera I demoed CaptureOne and Bibble4. Bibble won due to a bug in CaptureOne sending deleted files to the Recycle bin overriding every system setting to not use the Recycle bin in XP64, as the work flows were nearly identical. Then everyone added cataloging capability to their batch converters. I got free upgrade to Bibble5 , but went back the v4. When Corel bought out BibbleLabs, I grabbed a copy of that for $20. Still went back to B4. I don't need or want cataloging and any additional steps/issues associated with it's inclusion. I want a program which stays in single image mode after selecting multiple files, but allows changes to all selected files as well. Making changes to one file of a group of similar shots and then copying/pasting creates additional work. Made even more so by some programs desire to automatically switch to multi-image preview when multiple files are selected (current CaptureOne). I also don't want to have to import images into some database I have no use for. I'm thinking I'm stuck, unless someone has a suggestion I'm not aware of. Any ideas? It sounds like you need to try Lightroom. Regardless of your feelings regarding catalogs/libraries/databases, one of Lightroom's most powerful features is its batch processing and syncing capability. -- Savageduck |
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Any currrent raw batch converter like old Bibble(v4) or CaptureOne?
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 00:36:48 GMT, Savageduck
wrote: me wrote: To date I've used RawShooterEssentials, PSCS2, CatpureNX, PSE6&11, Bibble4&5, AfterShotPro to convert raw files from my Nikon D70/200/300. I initially found RawShooter's work flow to suit me. When I got a newer unsupported camera I demoed CaptureOne and Bibble4. Bibble won due to a bug in CaptureOne sending deleted files to the Recycle bin overriding every system setting to not use the Recycle bin in XP64, as the work flows were nearly identical. Then everyone added cataloging capability to their batch converters. I got free upgrade to Bibble5 , but went back the v4. When Corel bought out BibbleLabs, I grabbed a copy of that for $20. Still went back to B4. I don't need or want cataloging and any additional steps/issues associated with it's inclusion. I want a program which stays in single image mode after selecting multiple files, but allows changes to all selected files as well. Making changes to one file of a group of similar shots and then copying/pasting creates additional work. Made even more so by some programs desire to automatically switch to multi-image preview when multiple files are selected (current CaptureOne). I also don't want to have to import images into some database I have no use for. I'm thinking I'm stuck, unless someone has a suggestion I'm not aware of. Any ideas? It sounds like you need to try Lightroom. Regardless of your feelings regarding catalogs/libraries/databases, one of Lightroom's most powerful features is its batch processing and syncing capability. Have to say I had already given the demo a quick try before posting and recoiled in horror at my initial experience. Not sure what you mean by synching, but me first inkling is I'm not interested in this "feature." |
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Any currrent raw batch converter like old Bibble(v4) or CaptureOne?
On 2014-03-14 09:15:45 +0000, me said:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 00:36:48 GMT, Savageduck wrote: me wrote: To date I've used RawShooterEssentials, PSCS2, CatpureNX, PSE6&11, Bibble4&5, AfterShotPro to convert raw files from my Nikon D70/200/300. I initially found RawShooter's work flow to suit me. When I got a newer unsupported camera I demoed CaptureOne and Bibble4. Bibble won due to a bug in CaptureOne sending deleted files to the Recycle bin overriding every system setting to not use the Recycle bin in XP64, as the work flows were nearly identical. Then everyone added cataloging capability to their batch converters. I got free upgrade to Bibble5 , but went back the v4. When Corel bought out BibbleLabs, I grabbed a copy of that for $20. Still went back to B4. I don't need or want cataloging and any additional steps/issues associated with it's inclusion. I want a program which stays in single image mode after selecting multiple files, but allows changes to all selected files as well. Making changes to one file of a group of similar shots and then copying/pasting creates additional work. Made even more so by some programs desire to automatically switch to multi-image preview when multiple files are selected (current CaptureOne). I also don't want to have to import images into some database I have no use for. I'm thinking I'm stuck, unless someone has a suggestion I'm not aware of. Any ideas? It sounds like you need to try Lightroom. Regardless of your feelings regarding catalogs/libraries/databases, one of Lightroom's most powerful features is its batch processing and syncing capability. Have to say I had already given the demo a quick try before posting and recoiled in horror at my initial experience. Why? What were you trying to do? Not sure what you mean by synching, but me first inkling is I'm not interested in this "feature." In Lightroom's Develop Module, if you have a batch of image files needing similar adjustments or batch processing, select one file from the batch to adjust. Make the adjustments, set lens & camera profiles, etc. Then select the rest of the images in the batch. On the bottom right of the develop module the "Sync" button becomes active, click that. A sync dialog window will open, in that window you check which of the adjustment criteria you want to sync across the batch, then click on "Synchronize". Each of the selected files in the batch is then synchronized with the adjustments you made in the first one. Batch processing if you will. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...enshot_619.jpg -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Any currrent raw batch converter like old Bibble(v4) or CaptureOne?
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me wrote: On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 00:36:48 GMT, Savageduck wrote: me wrote: To date I've used RawShooterEssentials, PSCS2, CatpureNX, PSE6&11, Bibble4&5, AfterShotPro to convert raw files from my Nikon D70/200/300. I initially found RawShooter's work flow to suit me. When I got a newer unsupported camera I demoed CaptureOne and Bibble4. Bibble won due to a bug in CaptureOne sending deleted files to the Recycle bin overriding every system setting to not use the Recycle bin in XP64, as the work flows were nearly identical. Then everyone added cataloging capability to their batch converters. I got free upgrade to Bibble5 , but went back the v4. When Corel bought out BibbleLabs, I grabbed a copy of that for $20. Still went back to B4. I don't need or want cataloging and any additional steps/issues associated with it's inclusion. I want a program which stays in single image mode after selecting multiple files, but allows changes to all selected files as well. Making changes to one file of a group of similar shots and then copying/pasting creates additional work. Made even more so by some programs desire to automatically switch to multi-image preview when multiple files are selected (current CaptureOne). I also don't want to have to import images into some database I have no use for. I'm thinking I'm stuck, unless someone has a suggestion I'm not aware of. Any ideas? apparently Silkypix Developer Studio Pro is pretty much what you are looking for.. Not used it myself yet, but I have had it recommended to me and I am considering it... regards Andy |
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Any currrent raw batch converter like old Bibble(v4) or CaptureOne?
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wrote: It sounds like you need to try Lightroom. Regardless of your feelings regarding catalogs/libraries/databases, one of Lightroom's most powerful features is its batch processing and syncing capability. Have to say I had already given the demo a quick try before posting and recoiled in horror at my initial experience. what didn't you like? lightroom works a little differently than photoshop or other image editor because it's also an asset manager, so its unfamiliarity might be a little confusing at first. however, it's well worth learning because the payoff down the line is incredibly huge. Not sure what you mean by synching, but me first inkling is I'm not interested in this "feature." adjusting multiple images in one step and it's *very* useful. for instance, you can white balance one image and then apply that white balance to an entire group. if they're all shot in the same conditions, they're almost certainly going to have the same white balance. the syncing is just a one-time push, not something that is continually maintained, so you can still tweak them further if needed. just about any adjustment can be synced. it's a huge productivity boost. it's possible to do it in photoshop but not as easily. |
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Any currrent raw batch converter like old Bibble(v4) or CaptureOne?
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:24:36 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: Have to say I had already given the demo a quick try before posting and recoiled in horror at my initial experience. Why? What were you trying to do? First bad thing is the filmstrip layout can not be moved. For me it is stuck in the worse place possible, the bottom, due to vision issues. Also it appears you can't set it to use the mouse wheel to scroll through the strip images. Not sure what you mean by synching, but me first inkling is I'm not interested in this "feature." In Lightroom's Develop Module, if you have a batch of image files needing similar adjustments or batch processing, select one file from the batch to adjust. Make the adjustments, set lens & camera profiles, etc. Then select the rest of the images in the batch. On the bottom right of the develop module the "Sync" button becomes active, click that. A sync dialog window will open, in that window you check which of the adjustment criteria you want to sync across the batch, then click on "Synchronize". Each of the selected files in the batch is then synchronized with the adjustments you made in the first one. Batch processing if you will. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...enshot_619.jpg OK thanks, I stand corrected. I'd seen synching mentioned in regard to the catalog in some of the on-line guide material. But this gets me to the crux of my query. I'm not saying Aftershot/CaputeOne7/ LR5 can't do this. It is the fact it takes additional steps to do it compared to Bibble4. In B4 if you selected multiple files only the first is shown in the adjustments preview, but all the files selected were adjusted. No need to copy/paste adjustments or synch in additional step(s). I just am having a hard time adding what to me seems like additional unnecessary steps to my work flow. Controls seem to take more time to use. In B5 clicking on the adjustment slider bars took 0.5 (not 0.1) steps, while the mouse wheel allows 0.1 adjustments, and also had direct numerical input boxes and re-zero boxes. |
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Any currrent raw batch converter like old Bibble(v4) or CaptureOne?
On 2014-03-15 11:37:33 +0000, me said:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:24:36 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Have to say I had already given the demo a quick try before posting and recoiled in horror at my initial experience. Why? What were you trying to do? First bad thing is the filmstrip layout can not be moved. For me it is stuck in the worse place possible, the bottom, due to vision issues. Well, that might be a bad thing for you personally due to your particular vision issues. Also it appears you can't set it to use the mouse wheel to scroll through the strip images. How so? I use the scroll wheel to navigate left and right along the filmstrip all the time. You have to place the cursor below the main window and in the filmstrip, then is scrolls in either direction. If you are in the Library Mode using the grid view it will scroll up and down, in the filmstrip left & right. just place the cursor in the area you need scrolling active. Not sure what you mean by synching, but me first inkling is I'm not interested in this "feature." In Lightroom's Develop Module, if you have a batch of image files needing similar adjustments or batch processing, select one file from the batch to adjust. Make the adjustments, set lens & camera profiles, etc. Then select the rest of the images in the batch. On the bottom right of the develop module the "Sync" button becomes active, click that. A sync dialog window will open, in that window you check which of the adjustment criteria you want to sync across the batch, then click on "Synchronize". Each of the selected files in the batch is then synchronized with the adjustments you made in the first one. Batch processing if you will. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...enshot_619.jpg OK thanks, I stand corrected. I'd seen synching mentioned in regard to the catalog in some of the on-line guide material. In terms of syncing with regard to the catalog (Library Mode) that can be done with items such as metadata and file naming, application of keywords, etc. But this gets me to the crux of my query. I'm not saying Aftershot/CaputeOne7/ LR5 can't do this. It is the fact it takes additional steps to do it compared to Bibble4. In B4 if you selected multiple files only the first is shown in the adjustments preview, but all the files selected were adjusted. No need to copy/paste adjustments or synch in additional step(s). I just am having a hard time adding what to me seems like additional unnecessary steps to my work flow. Controls seem to take more time to use. In B5 clicking on the adjustment slider bars took 0.5 (not 0.1) steps, while the mouse wheel allows 0.1 adjustments, and also had direct numerical input boxes and re-zero boxes. As with most software, familiarity with the UI and having a practiced workflow is the most efficient way to do things. When you have a multi-featured, complex piece of software there is always a learning curve to climb, and that requires an investment in time and exercise. For me that has been true for each edition of PS and LR and many of the third party plugins, but the rewards for taking the time to learn (it is an ongoing education) what I needed to, and to tweak my workflow have been great. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Any currrent raw batch converter like old Bibble(v4) or CaptureOne?
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 09:27:55 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: On 2014-03-15 11:37:33 +0000, me said: On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:24:36 -0700, Savageduck wrote: Have to say I had already given the demo a quick try before posting and recoiled in horror at my initial experience. Why? What were you trying to do? First bad thing is the filmstrip layout can not be moved. For me it is stuck in the worse place possible, the bottom, due to vision issues. Well, that might be a bad thing for you personally due to your particular vision issues. Filmstrip on the bottom requires me to constantly tilt my head to look at instead of just my eyes due to fairly severe nearsightedness and bifocals. Using just my eyes puts me in the near correction zone and blurs the images some. Bibble and Aftershot allow one to move the docked film strip either to the side or top. Most other programs seem fixed at the bottom is the only position. DXO only allows docking at the bottom, but also allows you to float it anywhere. Also it appears you can't set it to use the mouse wheel to scroll through the strip images. How so? I use the scroll wheel to navigate left and right along the filmstrip all the time. You have to place the cursor below the main window and in the filmstrip, then is scrolls in either direction. t appears to only scroll the strip itself, not the selected image in the strip.Agian, appears only a Bibble 4 feature. This was a key feature to me in quickly going through a given set of photos and deleting the non-keepers. Right hand on mouse, left on delete key quickly scrolling through previews and deleting as warranted. Controls seem to take more time to use. In B5 clicking on the adjustment slider bars took 0.5 (not 0.1) steps, while the mouse wheel allows 0.1 adjustments, and also had direct numerical input boxes and re-zero boxes. As with most software, familiarity with the UI and having a practiced workflow is the most efficient way to do things. When you have a multi-featured, complex piece of software there is always a learning curve to climb, and that requires an investment in time and exercise. For me that has been true for each edition of PS and LR and many of the third party plugins, but the rewards for taking the time to learn (it is an ongoing education) what I needed to, and to tweak my workflow have been great. Somewhat agreed. Though it seems the folks that write software mainly keep increasing features more than they actually focus on controls requiring the fewest number of user inputs to accomplish a task. M$Orifice appears to be a major offender here. Though I also recently switched from PSE6 to 11 in a closed environment at work and the interface change with the same scanner is absolutely horrendous. I can find no way for a recently saved location to be remembered and the blasted thing always goes back to MyPictures fir each new scan even in a given session. So far batch processing programs tried with the new D7100 I've tried: Aftershotpro1.2 Captureone7.2 Lightroom5.5 Silkypix DxOpro9 As I already have a license for Aftershopro from it being bought by Bibble, candidates at this point have to have more pluses than minuses cin comparison to it. Sar far DxO seems to be leading, though the inability to set a fixed relative output folder is a real PIA. I appreciate all your feedback. |
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