Film is dead!

MXP wrote:
I use film myself. But are there any tests on the web which shows
that 35mm
film can resolve more detail than a 6-11MP camera?
What about Erwin Puts and his Leica M lenses?


Here's a comparison:
http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedeta....summary1.html

As for whether film is dying, here's an indication:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0311/03...rends53mil.asp
Digital sales are all set to take over film camera sales.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...d=aGqHJExzLeME
Kodak expects film sales to drop by 12% worldwide and 20% in the US.

In Singapore, digital camera sales spurted 108% in 2002 and 40% in
2003.
http://it.asia1.com.sg/newsdaily/news003_20030610.html

Agfa closes its disposable cameras and film business.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/040819/belgi...gevaert_1.html

Digicam sales grow 280% in China.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20040820A8048.html

40% of US households to have a digicam each
http://money.iwon.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt...ews&feed=reu&s
rc=201&news_id=reu-n14621170&date=20040414

Nikon to stop maufacturing compact 35mm film cameras
http://it.asia1.com.sg/newsdaily/news004_20031114.html

Now, before you jump on me, let me clarify that I neither a film-zealot
nor a digital evangelist. With current technologies and prices, both
have their uses and place.

Cheers,

Siddhartha

MXP wrote:
I use film myself. But are there any tests on the web which shows
that 35mm
film can resolve more detail than a 6-11MP camera?
What about Erwin Puts and his Leica M lenses?


Here's a comparison:
http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedeta....summary1.html

As for whether film is dying, here's an indication:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0311/03...rends53mil.asp
Digital sales are all set to take over film camera sales.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...d=aGqHJExzLeME
Kodak expects film sales to drop by 12% worldwide and 20% in the US.

In Singapore, digital camera sales spurted 108% in 2002 and 40% in
2003.
http://it.asia1.com.sg/newsdaily/news003_20030610.html

Agfa closes its disposable cameras and film business.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/040819/belgi...gevaert_1.html

Digicam sales grow 280% in China.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20040820A8048.html

40% of US households to have a digicam each
http://money.iwon.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt...ews&feed=reu&s
rc=201&news_id=reu-n14621170&date=20040414

Nikon to stop maufacturing compact 35mm film cameras
http://it.asia1.com.sg/newsdaily/news004_20031114.html

Now, before you jump on me, let me clarify that I neither a film-zealot
nor a digital evangelist. With current technologies and prices, both
have their uses and place.

Cheers,

Siddhartha

"Ralf R. Radermacher" skrev i en meddelelse
...
MXP wrote:

I use film myself. But are there any tests on the web which shows that
35mm
film can resolve more detail than a 6-11MP camera?

What would change if they did or didn't? Would your analog cameras stop
working? Would it have any influence on your sperm count? Why don't you
simply go and take some pictures?

Ralf

I do take some pictures using film. But I am also interrested in the new
technology. And people here often claims that the best 24x36 films equals
16-20 MP digital. I just want to see some test which proves it. The tests I
see often shows that a 6MP digital has more details than Fuji Velvia....and
I don't like that :-)

Max


--
Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany
private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de
manual cameras and photo galleries - updated April 29, 2004
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

"Ralf R. Radermacher" skrev i en meddelelse
...
MXP wrote:

I use film myself. But are there any tests on the web which shows that
35mm
film can resolve more detail than a 6-11MP camera?

What would change if they did or didn't? Would your analog cameras stop
working? Would it have any influence on your sperm count? Why don't you
simply go and take some pictures?

Ralf

I do take some pictures using film. But I am also interrested in the new
technology. And people here often claims that the best 24x36 films equals
16-20 MP digital. I just want to see some test which proves it. The tests I
see often shows that a 6MP digital has more details than Fuji Velvia....and
I don't like that :-)

Max


--
Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany
private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de
manual cameras and photo galleries - updated April 29, 2004
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

"Annika1980" skrev i en meddelelse
...
From: "Martin Francis" ternet

Film is dead, and we're having a whale of a time at the wake.

(Bitching about how crap it was and how much better digital is)



I was about to post something similar just for you, Marty, when I found
this
thread.
Beaten to the line by a bassackward troll .... oh well.

But the message is clear .... film IS dead !!! Has been for a few years.
So
Martin, why don't you let me put you in a slightly used Totally Digital
D60?




What about all the Leica M users? ....and me with my old Voigtländer
Prominent from 1955....and my Nikon F? .....would you like to try a
Nikon F with waist level finder?

For shoting slides and fine grain B/W film is still there. The digital
projectors can't match a good old Velvia slide.

Max

"Annika1980" skrev i en meddelelse
...
From: "Martin Francis" ternet

Film is dead, and we're having a whale of a time at the wake.

(Bitching about how crap it was and how much better digital is)



I was about to post something similar just for you, Marty, when I found
this
thread.
Beaten to the line by a bassackward troll .... oh well.

But the message is clear .... film IS dead !!! Has been for a few years.
So
Martin, why don't you let me put you in a slightly used Totally Digital
D60?




What about all the Leica M users? ....and me with my old Voigtländer
Prominent from 1955....and my Nikon F? .....would you like to try a
Nikon F with waist level finder?

For shoting slides and fine grain B/W film is still there. The digital
projectors can't match a good old Velvia slide.

Max

"MXP" wrote in message
. ..

"Annika1980" skrev i en meddelelse
...
From: "Martin Francis" ternet

Film is dead, and we're having a whale of a time at the wake.

(Bitching about how crap it was and how much better digital is)



I was about to post something similar just for you, Marty, when I found
this
thread.
Beaten to the line by a bassackward troll .... oh well.

But the message is clear .... film IS dead !!! Has been for a few
years.
So
Martin, why don't you let me put you in a slightly used Totally Digital
D60?




What about all the Leica M users? ....and me with my old Voigtländer
Prominent from 1955....and my Nikon F? .....would you like to try a
Nikon F with waist level finder?

For shoting slides and fine grain B/W film is still there. The digital
projectors can't match a good old Velvia slide.

Max



You use a waist level finder on your Nikon F? Why? Just remove the prism
and focus
directly on the focusing screen.

George

"George" skrev i en meddelelse
...

"MXP" wrote in message
. ..

"Annika1980" skrev i en meddelelse
...
From: "Martin Francis" ternet

Film is dead, and we're having a whale of a time at the wake.

(Bitching about how crap it was and how much better digital is)



I was about to post something similar just for you, Marty, when I found
this
thread.
Beaten to the line by a bassackward troll .... oh well.

But the message is clear .... film IS dead !!! Has been for a few
years.
So
Martin, why don't you let me put you in a slightly used Totally Digital
D60?




What about all the Leica M users? ....and me with my old Voigtländer
Prominent from 1955....and my Nikon F? .....would you like to try a
Nikon F with waist level finder?

For shoting slides and fine grain B/W film is still there. The digital
projectors can't match a good old Velvia slide.

Max



You use a waist level finder on your Nikon F? Why? Just remove the prism
and focus
directly on the focusing screen.

George



The waist level finder also have a magnifier glass.....and it also cuts off
light comming
from the sides.......else it can be difficult see the image. It is the
folding type....so it also
protects the screen when the camera is not is use.....and it is very
compact. Then it is
also a kind of a collectible.

Max

"George" wrote in message



You use a waist level finder on your Nikon F? Why? Just remove the prism
and focus
directly on the focusing screen.

George

Why? For obvious reasons: the waist level finder increases contrast
by blocking stray light, and it has a built-in loupe if you need to
examine the viewfinder image more closely.

Brian
www.caldwellphotographic.com

"George" wrote in message



You use a waist level finder on your Nikon F? Why? Just remove the prism
and focus
directly on the focusing screen.

George

Why? For obvious reasons: the waist level finder increases contrast
by blocking stray light, and it has a built-in loupe if you need to
examine the viewfinder image more closely.

Brian
www.caldwellphotographic.com