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Old March 24th 06, 01:50 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:13:31 GMT, no_name
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Actually, I think it has more to do with micro-fiche can be read with
absolutely no electricity.



No kidding? So they're viewed by candle light?


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Old March 24th 06, 01:53 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:48:24 +1200, Colin D
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That was until somebody realized that valves were immune to radiation
and magnetic pulses, whereas solid state ...



That's a crock. Electrons (or ions) in
motion (ie., as in "valves") are
*most definitely* affected by magnetic
fields.


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rafe b wrote:

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:48:24 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

That was until somebody realized that valves were immune to radiation
and magnetic pulses, whereas solid state ...


That's a crock. Electrons (or ions) in
motion (ie., as in "valves") are
*most definitely* affected by magnetic
fields.

rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com


You miss the point, Rafe. Solid-state/semi-conductor junctions are
*destroyed* by the likes of magnetic pulses from nuclear explosions.
Valves are not.

Colin D.
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:09:40 +1200, Colin D
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You miss the point, Rafe. Solid-state/semi-conductor junctions are
*destroyed* by the likes of magnetic pulses from nuclear explosions.
Valves are not.



Yeah, really. One nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day.


rafe b
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rafe b wrote:

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:09:40 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

You miss the point, Rafe. Solid-state/semi-conductor junctions are
*destroyed* by the likes of magnetic pulses from nuclear explosions.
Valves are not.


Yeah, really. One nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day.

rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com


Jesus. Something got up your nose, then?

Colin D.
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"Colin D" wrote in message
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You miss the point, Rafe. Solid-state/semi-conductor junctions are
*destroyed* by the likes of magnetic pulses from nuclear explosions.
Valves are not.

Colin D.


For the young, the valves Colin is referring to are usually called
vacuum tubes in the US. (I still use a pair of them in my RF amp.)

T.W.


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"Taswolf" wrote in message
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"Colin D" wrote in message
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You miss the point, Rafe. Solid-state/semi-conductor junctions are
*destroyed* by the likes of magnetic pulses from nuclear explosions.
Valves are not.

Colin D.


For the young, the valves Colin is referring to are usually called
vacuum tubes in the US. (I still use a pair of them in my RF amp.)

T.W.



Digitally-archived files are not going to withstand the effects of war or
vandals or thieves. And, if the nuclear weapon is strong enough to wipe out
the data, it will probably wipe out all human life in the area too, making
the whole argument moot.

But, assuming that normal storage conditions apply, the use of microfilm
(for documents) continues to offer a degree of assurance that the
information will remain readable regardless of the impact of changes in the
hardware or the image file formats that will change over time.

I thought that microfilm was dead, but I've learned that it is a robust
solution to the risks associated with media and file format obsolescence.
It is a virtual certainty that nobody but a handful of specialists will have
the capability of decoding files stored on today's digital media in 500
years. As antiquated as microfilm may be, if it can be saved it can be
read.



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Old March 24th 06, 01:35 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:43:17 GMT, "Jeremy" wrote:


Digitally-archived files are not going to withstand the effects of war or
vandals or thieves. And, if the nuclear weapon is strong enough to wipe out
the data, it will probably wipe out all human life in the area too, making
the whole argument moot.



So who cares? Do you really think your photos
are more important than the next global war?

Why not put your energy into preventing *that*
instead of worrying about whether your precious
photos will survive it. Sheesh.


rafe b
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"Colin D" wrote in message
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rafe b wrote:

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:09:40 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

You miss the point, Rafe. Solid-state/semi-conductor junctions are
*destroyed* by the likes of magnetic pulses from nuclear explosions.
Valves are not.


Yeah, really. One nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day.


You mean I might not be able to listen to Rush during a nuclear attack?


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William Graham wrote:
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rafe b wrote:

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:09:40 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

You miss the point, Rafe. Solid-state/semi-conductor junctions are
*destroyed* by the likes of magnetic pulses from nuclear explosions.
Valves are not.

Yeah, really. One nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day.


You mean I might not be able to listen to Rush during a nuclear attack?


If we are lucky Rush would be standing at ground zero.

Scott

 




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