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Only fools rely solely on "the cloud."
On 2019-03-18 09:59, RichA wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47610936 The 'cloud', esp. services designed for convenience, is not a backup. I make my own backups and rotate drives and re-burn DVD's every 5 years or so. (Indeed I'm due to re-burn some presently). -- "2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants. Proof that we need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do." - unknown protester |
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Only fools rely solely on "the cloud."
Alan Browne:
The 'cloud', esp. services designed for convenience, is not a backup. I share that view, but I believe that view will change as cloud services become cheaper. The reliability is already there; more redundancy and geographic diversity than the average user could personally afford. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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Only fools rely solely on "the cloud."
In article , Davoud
wrote: The 'cloud', esp. services designed for convenience, is not a backup. I share that view, but I believe that view will change as cloud services become cheaper. they're already very affordable. the obstacle is bandwidth, not price. uploading terabytes of data can potentially take a very long time, which is why some services accept a seed drive. The reliability is already there; more redundancy and geographic diversity than the average user could personally afford. exactly the point, and even for above average users. |
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Only fools rely solely on "the cloud."
In article , MC
wrote: the obstacle is bandwidth, not price. uploading terabytes of data can potentially take a very long time, which is why some services accept a seed drive. The reliability is already there; more redundancy and geographic diversity than the average user could personally afford. Cost and bandwidth are a poor second to ensuring the organisation entrusted with storing the data can keep that data safe and secure. that's exactly what they do, and much more than any end user can possibly achieve. it's not even close. the problem is *bandwidth* to move the amounts of data people have between their devices and the cloud. although the pipes are getting bigger, so is the amount of data people have. cloud services sell reliability and if they fail at that, they lose customers, possibly going out of business. amazon, google, microsoft, apple, dropbox, carbonite, etc., aren't going away any time soon, if ever. and it goes without saying that having a *single* copy of data, whether it's in the cloud or a local drive, is *not* *backed* *up* and at risk for loss. that's *not* the fault of the cloud service or the hard drive maker, but entirely the negligence of the user. It seems MySpace were certainly not to be trusted in this regard but who was to know that until it happened? myspace never claimed it was a backup service. anyone using it as such made a very big mistake thinking it was. however, a much bigger mistake was having a *single* copy of important data. not only a mistake, but it's incredibly stupid. those who have *actual* backups don't give a **** that myspace lost data any more than if one of their hard drives failed. there are always other copies. sign up with another cloud service or replace the failed hard drive and sync. no big deal. The fact that various clauses in the user agreements, where the organisation make the user ultimately responsible for the safety and security of their own data, suggests that the facilities offered could, at some point, be volatile and not 100% safe. *nothing* is 100% safe. hard drives fail. houses burn down or are flooded. bad guys steal stuff. end users would need a *lot* of hard drives in a *lot* of cities to even begin to approach to what a cloud service offers with a few clicks. and again, *one* copy is not a backup. anyone who has only one copy of *anything*, cloud or local, is begging for problems, and when it happens, they'll invariably blame the cloud service or hard drive maker, not their own negligence. |
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Only fools rely solely on "the cloud."
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 01:03:35 GMT, MC wrote:
Cost and bandwidth are a poor second to ensuring the organisation entrusted with storing the data can keep that data safe and secure. If the NSA can't even keep their data secure, what makes anyone think a company like Apple can? |
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Only fools rely solely on "the cloud."
In article , arlen holder
wrote: If the NSA can't even keep their data secure, what makes anyone think a company like Apple can? apple places a higher priority on security than the nsa did. |
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Only fools rely solely on "the cloud."
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 22:11:43 -0400, nospam wrote:
apple places a higher priority on security than the nsa did. Hehhehheh... The sad thing is that you actually _believe_ what you write. o Where facts don't fit into your imaginary belief system, nospam. o What to do about Apple's shameful Mac security flaw https://www.computerworld.com/article/3239047/what-to-do-about-apples-shameful-mac-security-flaw.html o The latest version of iOS has made it much easier to crack passwords protecting encrypted backups. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gv5w44/the-new-ios-has-a-critical-security-flaw-says-iphone-cracking-company-1 o Apple acknowledges yet another shameful iOS 10 security flaw https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/24/ios-10-itunes-backup-security-flaw/ o Anyone Can Hack MacOS High Sierra Just by Typing "Root" https://www.wired.com/story/macos-high-sierra-hack-root/ o Yet another massive security hole found in iOS 11 https://forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/03/22/apple-ios-11-3-release-upgrade-siri-iphone-security-ipad-problem/#7cbaf7502beb o iOS 12.1 exploit bypasses the lockscreen https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/1/18051186/ios-12-1-exploit-lockscreen-bypass-security o This iOS 12.1 Group FaceTime Hack Allows Full Access https://www.idropnews.com/news/iphone/this-ios-12-1-group-facetime-hack-allows-full-access-to-contacts/87021/ o Teenage Hacker's App Steals Apple Mac Passwords https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2019/02/06/teenager-finds-apple-mac-hack-that-steals-passwords-with-evil-apps/#3628cedc1929 o macOS Exploit Published on the Last Day of 2017 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/apple/macos-exploit-published-on-the-last-day-of-2017/ o Apple iOS 11.2.6 Has A Significant Security Problem https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/03/10/apple-ios-11-2-6-problem-ios-upgrade-iphone-ipad-amazon-kindle/#2f3bea3c46b3 etc. |
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