Real photos of Highway 17 and Skyline in the Santa Cruz Mountains this week

On 2/12/2017 8:35 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

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Do people actually drive in New York city? Must have been quite a
change for him.


The natives of the City and its environs, only do so when necessary. At
least not during the rush hour.



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PeterN

On 2/12/2017 8:35 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:


I would not like to be on or near any road that you are driving on.

you have been, and on numerous occasions.


Lucky me.


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PeterN

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 00:23:50 +0000 (UTC), Stijn De Jong
wrote:

In NY, you look for "black ice".
In CA, you look for black holes.

In NV you look for signs to go back where you came from.
We don't need those folks.

In article , PeterN
wrote:

Do people actually drive in New York city? Must have been quite a
change for him.


The natives of the City and its environs, only do so when necessary. At
least not during the rush hour.

then why is there so much traffic in midtown?

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:32:28 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Stijn De Jong
wrote:


Why people in vans even think to attempt a crossing is beyond me.
http://i.cubeupload.com/HPg6Xo.jpg

i doubt he was attempting to cross it. more likely he was not paying
any attention and only realized it when it was too late.

It's always possible that the hole got there after the van did.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:50:47 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , PeterN
wrote:

Do people actually drive in New York city? Must have been quite a
change for him.

The natives of the City and its environs, only do so when necessary. At
least not during the rush hour.

then why is there so much traffic in midtown?

https://www.google.com/search?q=new+york+city+traffic&tbm=isch
Kinda looks like mostly taxi cabs, buses, delivery vans, tour buses,
but very few private vehicles. Even if he had experience driving in
New York city, he couldn't have been driving very fast.


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In article , Jeff
Liebermann wrote:


Do people actually drive in New York city? Must have been quite a
change for him.

The natives of the City and its environs, only do so when necessary. At
least not during the rush hour.

then why is there so much traffic in midtown?

https://www.google.com/search?q=new+york+city+traffic&tbm=isch
Kinda looks like mostly taxi cabs, buses, delivery vans, tour buses,
but very few private vehicles. Even if he had experience driving in
New York city, he couldn't have been driving very fast.

he could on roads outside of midtown itself.

In article , Stijn De Jong
wrote:


He didn't know how to drive on mountain roads (apparently).

he's still a stupid driver.

I am agreeing with you.
If you can't miss a 20 foot wide hole, you're not gonna miss a pedestrian
either. Or even a guardrail.

He was a bad driver, no doubt about it.
I agree with you.

You're supposed to maintain control of your vehicle, and driving into a
hole isn't maintaining control. He should have been able to stop.

If he couldn't stop, then he was driving too fast.

he was driving too fast for conditions and not paying attention either.

hopefully he learned a lesson. probably not though.

What if someone was standing in the road, for example.

He'd have run them over.

maybe.

pedestrians don't usually stand in the road so it's rarely an issue.

however, there are definitely stupid ones who step into moving traffic
expecting that the vehicles will stop, or they don't even bother
looking to see if there is any traffic at all. stupidity is not limited
to just drivers.

at least for people who step into traffic, they learn a quick lesson
and likely won't do it again, usually because they're unable to walk
anymore or dead.

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:54:45 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Stijn De Jong
wrote:


He didn't know how to drive on mountain roads (apparently).

he's still a stupid driver.

I am agreeing with you.
If you can't miss a 20 foot wide hole, you're not gonna miss a pedestrian
either. Or even a guardrail.

He was a bad driver, no doubt about it.
I agree with you.

You're supposed to maintain control of your vehicle, and driving into a
hole isn't maintaining control. He should have been able to stop.

If he couldn't stop, then he was driving too fast.

he was driving too fast for conditions and not paying attention either.

It's clear from the news item that he actually misjudged the
situation. He thought he was driving through mud, which probably
something he could have got away with, but in fact he was driving into
a hole ...

Driver error.


hopefully he learned a lesson. probably not though.

What if someone was standing in the road, for example.

He'd have run them over.

maybe.

pedestrians don't usually stand in the road so it's rarely an issue.

however, there are definitely stupid ones who step into moving traffic
expecting that the vehicles will stop, or they don't even bother
looking to see if there is any traffic at all. stupidity is not limited
to just drivers.

at least for people who step into traffic, they learn a quick lesson
and likely won't do it again, usually because they're unable to walk
anymore or dead.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article ,
Stijn De Jong wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:07:08 -0500, nospam wrote:

"I saw what I thought was mud, I stepped on the brake, and it was too
late," he said.

stupid driver syndrome.

According to the article Jeff referenced, the driver was from NY city.
It's his first week in California.
He didn't know how to drive on mountain roads (apparently).

In NY, you look for "black ice".
In CA, you look for black holes.

That thingy looked more lie a wormhole...
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teleportation kills