Minolta Dualscan IV- Will 126 Slides damage the scanner Physically

Mike King wrote:
35mm slides, image measures 24x36mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
127 super slides, image is 38mmx38mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
126 slides, image measures 26x26mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
828 slides, image is 28x40mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.

You should be able to scan a 24x36mm maximum area from any of these
formats on a 35mm scanner. A medium format scanner could scan the
whole image.


I think you may get more than 24x36mm on some scanners: my primitive but
effective HP PhotoSmart (second version) scanned the full image area of
127 film (if that is what Instamatics used), much to my delight.

--
Frank ess

"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
Mike King wrote:
35mm slides, image measures 24x36mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
127 super slides, image is 38mmx38mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
126 slides, image measures 26x26mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
828 slides, image is 28x40mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.

You should be able to scan a 24x36mm maximum area from any of these
formats on a 35mm scanner. A medium format scanner could scan the
whole image.


I think you may get more than 24x36mm on some scanners: my primitive but
effective HP PhotoSmart (second version) scanned the full image area of
127 film (if that is what Instamatics used), much to my delight.

--
Frank ess


127 Film size varies with the number of frames on the roll.
16 frames 1 13/16 x 1 9/16 inches
12 frames 1 5/8 x 1 5/8 inches
8 frames 1 5/8 x 2 1/2 inches.
127 Super Slide, 2 x 2 mount. Aperture is 38 mm x 38 mm.

126 (the Instamatic Cartridge)
12 or 20 frames.
Frame size is 28 mm x 28 mm. Negatives.
When mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount the Aperture is 26.5 mm x 26.5 mm.

All of the above from Kodak photographic products 1977-1978. A catalog.

If you have postive film mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount, some film scanners
will have no problem with whatever film that fits in a 2 x 2 mount.

However my Minolta Scandual IV Slide holder has a 1 1/2 x 1 inch window for
the image.

--
CSM1
http://www.carlmcmillan.com
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"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
Mike King wrote:
35mm slides, image measures 24x36mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
127 super slides, image is 38mmx38mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
126 slides, image measures 26x26mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
828 slides, image is 28x40mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.

You should be able to scan a 24x36mm maximum area from any of these
formats on a 35mm scanner. A medium format scanner could scan the
whole image.


I think you may get more than 24x36mm on some scanners: my primitive but
effective HP PhotoSmart (second version) scanned the full image area of
127 film (if that is what Instamatics used), much to my delight.

--
Frank ess


127 Film size varies with the number of frames on the roll.
16 frames 1 13/16 x 1 9/16 inches
12 frames 1 5/8 x 1 5/8 inches
8 frames 1 5/8 x 2 1/2 inches.
127 Super Slide, 2 x 2 mount. Aperture is 38 mm x 38 mm.

126 (the Instamatic Cartridge)
12 or 20 frames.
Frame size is 28 mm x 28 mm. Negatives.
When mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount the Aperture is 26.5 mm x 26.5 mm.

All of the above from Kodak photographic products 1977-1978. A catalog.

If you have postive film mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount, some film scanners
will have no problem with whatever film that fits in a 2 x 2 mount.

However my Minolta Scandual IV Slide holder has a 1 1/2 x 1 inch window for
the image.

--
CSM1
http://www.carlmcmillan.com
--

CSM1 wrote:
"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
Mike King wrote:
35mm slides, image measures 24x36mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
127 super slides, image is 38mmx38mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
126 slides, image measures 26x26mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
828 slides, image is 28x40mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.

You should be able to scan a 24x36mm maximum area from any of these
formats on a 35mm scanner. A medium format scanner could scan the
whole image.


I think you may get more than 24x36mm on some scanners: my primitive
but effective HP PhotoSmart (second version) scanned the full image
area of 127 film (if that is what Instamatics used), much to my
delight. --
Frank ess


127 Film size varies with the number of frames on the roll.
16 frames 1 13/16 x 1 9/16 inches
12 frames 1 5/8 x 1 5/8 inches
8 frames 1 5/8 x 2 1/2 inches.
127 Super Slide, 2 x 2 mount. Aperture is 38 mm x 38 mm.

126 (the Instamatic Cartridge)
12 or 20 frames.
Frame size is 28 mm x 28 mm. Negatives.
When mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount the Aperture is 26.5 mm x 26.5 mm.

All of the above from Kodak photographic products 1977-1978. A
catalog.
If you have postive film mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount, some film
scanners will have no problem with whatever film that fits in a 2 x 2
mount.
However my Minolta Scandual IV Slide holder has a 1 1/2 x 1 inch
window for the image.


Thank you.

I have a few more film strips of equal width, that take up very nearly
the entire width of the film, square frames. They are out of reach right
now. The fellow who sold them to me via eBay didn't remember what kind
of camera he used. Here's a couple:
http://www.fototime.com/BEF369D6F3A3264/orig.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/F6E45CE734FC74A/orig.jpg



Now that I look at the images, it seems to me they are not different
from the (known) Instamatics I mentioned.



--

Frank ess

CSM1 wrote:
"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
Mike King wrote:
35mm slides, image measures 24x36mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
127 super slides, image is 38mmx38mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
126 slides, image measures 26x26mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
828 slides, image is 28x40mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.

You should be able to scan a 24x36mm maximum area from any of these
formats on a 35mm scanner. A medium format scanner could scan the
whole image.


I think you may get more than 24x36mm on some scanners: my primitive
but effective HP PhotoSmart (second version) scanned the full image
area of 127 film (if that is what Instamatics used), much to my
delight. --
Frank ess


127 Film size varies with the number of frames on the roll.
16 frames 1 13/16 x 1 9/16 inches
12 frames 1 5/8 x 1 5/8 inches
8 frames 1 5/8 x 2 1/2 inches.
127 Super Slide, 2 x 2 mount. Aperture is 38 mm x 38 mm.

126 (the Instamatic Cartridge)
12 or 20 frames.
Frame size is 28 mm x 28 mm. Negatives.
When mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount the Aperture is 26.5 mm x 26.5 mm.

All of the above from Kodak photographic products 1977-1978. A
catalog.
If you have postive film mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount, some film
scanners will have no problem with whatever film that fits in a 2 x 2
mount.
However my Minolta Scandual IV Slide holder has a 1 1/2 x 1 inch
window for the image.


Thank you.

I have a few more film strips of equal width, that take up very nearly
the entire width of the film, square frames. They are out of reach right
now. The fellow who sold them to me via eBay didn't remember what kind
of camera he used. Here's a couple:
http://www.fototime.com/BEF369D6F3A3264/orig.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/F6E45CE734FC74A/orig.jpg



Now that I look at the images, it seems to me they are not different
from the (known) Instamatics I mentioned.



--

Frank ess

To everyone that responded to this thread a big THANK YOU is in order. I
have learned the hard way when you buy something it is good idea to go to
the Products web site and read the FAQ's. Now for the bad news, So I
installed the scanner Software first and did everything by the book and then
guess what the scanner was DOA Dead On Arrival Or also Known as Out Of Box
Failure the scanner would never see or feed the slide tray in. regardless
how far I pushed it in. I tried both Slide and the Negative holder with no
Luck. I purchased the scanner from a Super Store called MICRO-CENTER and
as fate would Have it. I had purchased the last film scanner they had and I
need to get all 436 slides Scanned, printed, and put on CD's before
Christmas. So I traded it in for the most expensive flat bed scanner they
had. An Epson 4870 Photo that has Digital ICE but as all most all the
slides I have are 50 to 30 years old Kodachome I understand that ICE is
worthless on them. I am sure that a Flat bed scanner is not as good as a
true film scanner but as my grandparents took these slides, they were Far
from Professional quality anyhow.

Thanks for everyone's help

P.S.

If you were I and giving copies of slides to your family on CD what
resolution, would you scan them at and would you keep the output at the
original size or like 4x6 inch

Again Thanks

Mike


"CSM1" wrote in message
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"Frank ess" wrote in message
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Mike King wrote:
35mm slides, image measures 24x36mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
127 super slides, image is 38mmx38mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
126 slides, image measures 26x26mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
828 slides, image is 28x40mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.

You should be able to scan a 24x36mm maximum area from any of these
formats on a 35mm scanner. A medium format scanner could scan the
whole image.


I think you may get more than 24x36mm on some scanners: my primitive but
effective HP PhotoSmart (second version) scanned the full image area of
127 film (if that is what Instamatics used), much to my delight.

--
Frank ess


127 Film size varies with the number of frames on the roll.
16 frames 1 13/16 x 1 9/16 inches
12 frames 1 5/8 x 1 5/8 inches
8 frames 1 5/8 x 2 1/2 inches.
127 Super Slide, 2 x 2 mount. Aperture is 38 mm x 38 mm.

126 (the Instamatic Cartridge)
12 or 20 frames.
Frame size is 28 mm x 28 mm. Negatives.
When mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount the Aperture is 26.5 mm x 26.5 mm.

All of the above from Kodak photographic products 1977-1978. A catalog.

If you have postive film mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount, some film
scanners
will have no problem with whatever film that fits in a 2 x 2 mount.

However my Minolta Scandual IV Slide holder has a 1 1/2 x 1 inch window
for
the image.

--
CSM1
http://www.carlmcmillan.com
--

To everyone that responded to this thread a big THANK YOU is in order. I
have learned the hard way when you buy something it is good idea to go to
the Products web site and read the FAQ's. Now for the bad news, So I
installed the scanner Software first and did everything by the book and then
guess what the scanner was DOA Dead On Arrival Or also Known as Out Of Box
Failure the scanner would never see or feed the slide tray in. regardless
how far I pushed it in. I tried both Slide and the Negative holder with no
Luck. I purchased the scanner from a Super Store called MICRO-CENTER and
as fate would Have it. I had purchased the last film scanner they had and I
need to get all 436 slides Scanned, printed, and put on CD's before
Christmas. So I traded it in for the most expensive flat bed scanner they
had. An Epson 4870 Photo that has Digital ICE but as all most all the
slides I have are 50 to 30 years old Kodachome I understand that ICE is
worthless on them. I am sure that a Flat bed scanner is not as good as a
true film scanner but as my grandparents took these slides, they were Far
from Professional quality anyhow.

Thanks for everyone's help

P.S.

If you were I and giving copies of slides to your family on CD what
resolution, would you scan them at and would you keep the output at the
original size or like 4x6 inch

Again Thanks

Mike


"CSM1" wrote in message
om...

"Frank ess" wrote in message
...
Mike King wrote:
35mm slides, image measures 24x36mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
127 super slides, image is 38mmx38mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
126 slides, image measures 26x26mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.
828 slides, image is 28x40mm, slide mount is 2x2 inches.

You should be able to scan a 24x36mm maximum area from any of these
formats on a 35mm scanner. A medium format scanner could scan the
whole image.


I think you may get more than 24x36mm on some scanners: my primitive but
effective HP PhotoSmart (second version) scanned the full image area of
127 film (if that is what Instamatics used), much to my delight.

--
Frank ess


127 Film size varies with the number of frames on the roll.
16 frames 1 13/16 x 1 9/16 inches
12 frames 1 5/8 x 1 5/8 inches
8 frames 1 5/8 x 2 1/2 inches.
127 Super Slide, 2 x 2 mount. Aperture is 38 mm x 38 mm.

126 (the Instamatic Cartridge)
12 or 20 frames.
Frame size is 28 mm x 28 mm. Negatives.
When mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount the Aperture is 26.5 mm x 26.5 mm.

All of the above from Kodak photographic products 1977-1978. A catalog.

If you have postive film mounted in a 2 x 2 slide mount, some film
scanners
will have no problem with whatever film that fits in a 2 x 2 mount.

However my Minolta Scandual IV Slide holder has a 1 1/2 x 1 inch window
for
the image.

--
CSM1
http://www.carlmcmillan.com
--

To everyone that responded to this thread a big THANK YOU is in order. I
have learned the hard way when you buy something it is good idea to go to
the Products web site and read the FAQ's. Now for the bad news, So I
installed the scanner Software first and did everything by the book and then
guess what the scanner was DOA Dead On Arrival Or also Known as Out Of Box
Failure the scanner would never see or feed the slide tray in. regardless
how far I pushed it in. I tried both Slide and the Negative holder with no
Luck. I purchased the scanner from a Super Store called MICRO-CENTER and
as fate would Have it. I had purchased the last film scanner they had and I
need to get all 436 slides Scanned, printed, and put on CD's before
Christmas. So I traded it in for the most expensive flat bed scanner they
had. An Epson 4870 Photo that has Digital ICE but as all most all the
slides I have are 50 to 30 years old Kodachome I understand that ICE is
worthless on them. I am sure that a Flat bed scanner is not as good as a
true film scanner but as my grandparents took these slides, they were Far
from Professional quality anyhow.

Thanks for everyone's help

P.S.

If you were I and giving copies of slides to your family on CD what
resolution, would you scan them at and would you keep the output at the
original size or like 4x6 inch

Again Thanks

Mike
"Mike Koperskinospam" wrote in message
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Help
I have just purchased a Minolta Dualscan IV and have not even installed it
yet. Most of my slides are 35mm but a few are 40 years old and came from
a
Kodak Instamatic camera that used 126 Film and some I think are 120 square
Slides from an old twin reflex camera that take up all most all of the
slide
save for about 3/8 inch. I know that the scanner was not made for this
older film and may not be able to scan the full slide and that is OK but
will putting this slide in the scanner damage the optics or the scanner
Physically?
Thank you in advance for anyone's thought and guidance on this issue.
Mike

To everyone that responded to this thread a big THANK YOU is in order. I
have learned the hard way when you buy something it is good idea to go to
the Products web site and read the FAQ's. Now for the bad news, So I
installed the scanner Software first and did everything by the book and then
guess what the scanner was DOA Dead On Arrival Or also Known as Out Of Box
Failure the scanner would never see or feed the slide tray in. regardless
how far I pushed it in. I tried both Slide and the Negative holder with no
Luck. I purchased the scanner from a Super Store called MICRO-CENTER and
as fate would Have it. I had purchased the last film scanner they had and I
need to get all 436 slides Scanned, printed, and put on CD's before
Christmas. So I traded it in for the most expensive flat bed scanner they
had. An Epson 4870 Photo that has Digital ICE but as all most all the
slides I have are 50 to 30 years old Kodachome I understand that ICE is
worthless on them. I am sure that a Flat bed scanner is not as good as a
true film scanner but as my grandparents took these slides, they were Far
from Professional quality anyhow.

Thanks for everyone's help

P.S.

If you were I and giving copies of slides to your family on CD what
resolution, would you scan them at and would you keep the output at the
original size or like 4x6 inch

Again Thanks

Mike
"Mike Koperskinospam" wrote in message
...
Help
I have just purchased a Minolta Dualscan IV and have not even installed it
yet. Most of my slides are 35mm but a few are 40 years old and came from
a
Kodak Instamatic camera that used 126 Film and some I think are 120 square
Slides from an old twin reflex camera that take up all most all of the
slide
save for about 3/8 inch. I know that the scanner was not made for this
older film and may not be able to scan the full slide and that is OK but
will putting this slide in the scanner damage the optics or the scanner
Physically?
Thank you in advance for anyone's thought and guidance on this issue.
Mike

Mike Koperskinospam wrote:
To everyone that responded to this thread a big THANK YOU is in
order. I have learned the hard way when you buy something it is good
idea to go to the Products web site and read the FAQ's. Now for the
bad news, So I installed the scanner Software first and did
everything by the book and then guess what the scanner was DOA Dead
On Arrival Or also Known as Out Of Box Failure the scanner would
never see or feed the slide tray in. regardless how far I pushed it
in. I tried both Slide and the Negative holder with no Luck. I
purchased the scanner from a Super Store called MICRO-CENTER and as
fate would Have it. I had purchased the last film scanner they had
and I need to get all 436 slides Scanned, printed, and put on CD's
before Christmas. So I traded it in for the most expensive flat bed
scanner they had. An Epson 4870 Photo that has Digital ICE but as
all most all the slides I have are 50 to 30 years old Kodachome I
understand that ICE is worthless on them. I am sure that a Flat bed
scanner is not as good as a true film scanner but as my grandparents
took these slides, they were Far from Professional quality anyhow.


Plenty of people have said here they get plenty good results on slides
with that scanner.

I seem to remember hearing the recent ICE versions do Old Kodachrome
plenty good.

Your family will love the results, I'm sure.


--
Frank ess