Ilford - the last man standing

"BernieM" wrote in message
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"Ralf R. Radermacher" wrote in message
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Bob Salomon wrote:

Tetenal makes B&W as well as color paper and chemistry.

Tetenal make paper? Where?

Ralf

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http://www.tetenal.co.uk/
Tetnal is certainly selling B&W paper under a house
brand but do they make it? The surface designators sure look
like Agfa to me. AFAIK the currently operating paper plants
are those operated by Ilford, Kentmere, FOMA, EFKE, Fuji,
and possibly Agfa if it hasn't been shut down yet. Fuji
papers do not seem to be sold outside of Japan.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA

"BernieM" wrote in message
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"Ralf R. Radermacher" wrote in message
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Bob Salomon wrote:

Tetenal makes B&W as well as color paper and chemistry.

Tetenal make paper? Where?

Ralf

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manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10,
2005
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

http://www.tetenal.co.uk/
I should have added Oriental which is labeled as being
made in Japan.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA

"Ralf R. Radermacher" wrote in message
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BernieM wrote:

http://www.tetenal.co.uk/

Where does it say they make it?

Ralf

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Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

Nowhere, I was wrong.

BernieM

Oh, dear, you will get us back to papers like Indiatone and Cykora
(sold under both the Agfa and Ansco names). I can't believe I am old
enough to have used these.

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"Richard Knoppow" wrote

AFAIK the currently operating [B&W photographic] paper plants
are those operated by Ilford, Kentmere, FOMA, EFKE, Fuji,
and possibly Agfa if it hasn't been shut down yet.

Also:

o Lekai (Lucky), China [now part of Kodak?]
o Slavich, Russia

There were/are plants in Italy, Spain and India. I think
the Italian (and maybe the Spanish) operations are owned
by 3M and Fuji has some sort of tie it with Jindal in India.
It is possible that all these now only produce color materials.

Slavich papers may be interesting, probably still have
cadmium in them? Slavich is the only [?] manufacturer
of holography plates and these are distributed in the
US. I haven't seen any of their other products over here.

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Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:
"Richard Knoppow" wrote


AFAIK the currently operating [B&W photographic] paper plants
are those operated by Ilford, Kentmere, FOMA, EFKE, Fuji,
and possibly Agfa if it hasn't been shut down yet.


Also:

o Lekai (Lucky), China [now part of Kodak?]
o Slavich, Russia

There were/are plants in Italy, Spain and India. I think
the Italian (and maybe the Spanish) operations are owned
by 3M and Fuji has some sort of tie it with Jindal in India.
It is possible that all these now only produce color materials.

Slavich papers may be interesting, probably still have
cadmium in them? Slavich is the only [?] manufacturer
of holography plates and these are distributed in the
US. I haven't seen any of their other products over here.

I believe Bergger in France is the old Guilleminot & Boespflug plant
which was the plant Fred Picker had make his original Brilliant papers.

In article ekom.at,
odonoghue wrote:

I believe Bergger in France is the old Guilleminot & Boespflug plant
which was the plant Fred Picker had make his original Brilliant papers.

There has been lots of speculation who makes their papers,
I say they do. Way back when Calumet first introduced
Brilliant it was there very paper as you say. Quite lovely
and predictable. Later Calumet, when Guilleminot & Boespflug
went belly up started repackaging Ilford papers under the
Brilliant name which they owned. When Bergger first came
out I tested it against several papers visually-I find it to be
that same paper as the original Brilliant- however that was a few years
back. The main thing that has troubled me with Bergger paper
(specifically their cheapest VC paper) is not only is it a lot more
expensive for nominally better paper-comparing to Forte but
you get half the quantity that is rather standard to a box.

Their packs are also smaller in sheet count which to me equates
to more trouble when doing editions.


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