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Old September 30th 04, 01:31 PM
Robert Feinman
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Default strange developments in the 35 rangefinder world

Both Voigtlander and Zeiss have announced new M mount
rangefinder models at Photokina.
There are two new Bessa R models with different finders
and a whole new camera and lens line from Zeiss.
cameraquest.com has a write up of the Bessas, you can
do a search of the Zeiss site for the press release on theirs.

Seems like a strange development if film is supposedly rapidly
dying.

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Old September 30th 04, 04:25 PM
Skip M
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"Robert Feinman" wrote in message
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Both Voigtlander and Zeiss have announced new M mount
rangefinder models at Photokina.
There are two new Bessa R models with different finders
and a whole new camera and lens line from Zeiss.
cameraquest.com has a write up of the Bessas, you can
do a search of the Zeiss site for the press release on theirs.

Seems like a strange development if film is supposedly rapidly
dying.

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It's not so much dying as becoming a niche product, as are the cameras that
are being introduced by Cosina. The argument could be made that the F6 is
also a niche product, a high priced, pro level film camera. The only
anomaly is the Canon 7N/I.

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Old September 30th 04, 05:06 PM
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"Robert Feinman" wrote in message
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Seems like a strange development if film is supposedly rapidly
dying.


Amen! Perhaps this is a taste of things to come in the film camera world:
Top-shelf cameras and lenses will remain available, for those that haven't
jumped ship and gone digital. The rest of the consumer-oriented camera
lines may fizzle away. (Didn't Nikon recently announce that they were
abandoning their P&S line?)

We'll have fewer film camera systems, but the ones that remain will be good
ones. Makes sense. Now if Kodak would only bring back Kodachrome 25, if
even if only as an expensive niche product.

The Chinese may introduce a few low-cost models to fill the vacuum in the
lower-end film camera market. Perhaps a 35m equivalent to the (MF)
Seagull??

Perhaps this latest development represents the beginning of the cloud of
confusion being lifted.


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Old September 30th 04, 05:42 PM
Böwzér
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"Robert Feinman" wrote in message
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Both Voigtlander and Zeiss have announced new M mount
rangefinder models at Photokina.
There are two new Bessa R models with different finders
and a whole new camera and lens line from Zeiss.
cameraquest.com has a write up of the Bessas, you can
do a search of the Zeiss site for the press release on theirs.

Seems like a strange development if film is supposedly rapidly
dying.


News flash: you can ue both. It is possible, and I have it on good authority
that some shooters actually use both. This is amazing! Apparently, these
shooters aren't the least bit concerned with anything but the final image!
They'll use whatever works! WOW!

Film ain't dead, or anywhere near. Digital is just a new choice. But I think
you already knew that.


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Old September 30th 04, 06:01 PM
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No doubt for the collector market. Here is a camera YOU can afford (no
matter how bad) that will take those lenses you can pick up off ebay.

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"Robert Feinman" wrote in message
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Both Voigtlander and Zeiss have announced new M mount
rangefinder models at Photokina.
There are two new Bessa R models with different finders
and a whole new camera and lens line from Zeiss.
cameraquest.com has a write up of the Bessas, you can
do a search of the Zeiss site for the press release on theirs.

Seems like a strange development if film is supposedly rapidly
dying.

--
Robert D Feinman
Landscapes, Cityscapes and Panoramic Photographs
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Old September 30th 04, 06:55 PM
Sander Vesik
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Skip M wrote:

It's not so much dying as becoming a niche product, as are the cameras that
are being introduced by Cosina. The argument could be made that the F6 is
also a niche product, a high priced, pro level film camera. The only
anomaly is the Canon 7N/I.


Umm... are you trying to say that there has been a time when high end
cameras - whetever their name is F4 or F5 or F6 or D2X or whatever
have *EVER* been anything but niche product?

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Old September 30th 04, 06:55 PM
Sander Vesik
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Skip M wrote:

It's not so much dying as becoming a niche product, as are the cameras that
are being introduced by Cosina. The argument could be made that the F6 is
also a niche product, a high priced, pro level film camera. The only
anomaly is the Canon 7N/I.


Umm... are you trying to say that there has been a time when high end
cameras - whetever their name is F4 or F5 or F6 or D2X or whatever
have *EVER* been anything but niche product?

--
Sander

+++ Out of cheese error +++
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Old September 30th 04, 07:29 PM
Chris Brown
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In article ,
Tony wrote:
No doubt for the collector market. Here is a camera YOU can afford (no
matter how bad) that will take those lenses you can pick up off ebay.


Cosina have been selling their Voitlander Leica mount rangefinders for
years...
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Old September 30th 04, 07:29 PM
Chris Brown
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In article ,
Tony wrote:
No doubt for the collector market. Here is a camera YOU can afford (no
matter how bad) that will take those lenses you can pick up off ebay.


Cosina have been selling their Voitlander Leica mount rangefinders for
years...
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Old October 1st 04, 06:15 AM
Skip M
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"Sander Vesik" wrote in message
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Skip M wrote:

It's not so much dying as becoming a niche product, as are the cameras

that
are being introduced by Cosina. The argument could be made that the F6

is
also a niche product, a high priced, pro level film camera. The only
anomaly is the Canon 7N/I.


Umm... are you trying to say that there has been a time when high end
cameras - whetever their name is F4 or F5 or F6 or D2X or whatever
have *EVER* been anything but niche product?

--
Sander

+++ Out of cheese error +++


No, but they are become more of a niche product as more and more pros go
completely digital.

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