I have a Nikon LS 8000 and scanning my MF film but now send to whom! Suggestions!

From: "Jos. Burke"

how can I send online the big approx 225 MB .TIFF file

Burn a CD and mail it unless you have a super fast connection and can ftp it.

and to whom at a
reasonable cost for a lightjet or similar print (RA-4)

Calypso is one of the best labs in the country and if you do all the prep work
LJ prints are pretty cheap, now that so many of their customers have switched
to printing their own with Epson 9600s or 7600s. http://www.calypsoinc.com/
16x20" LJ for $20 if you know how to pre-flight it.

West Coast Imaging is one of the other best labs and prints on a Chromira
(which is similar to a LJ), http://www.westcoastimaging.com/ I'm sure there
are dozens of others but these are the two I've worked with the most and are
used by many of the top pros.

NO INKJET STUFF PLEASE!!!

You don't know much about this, do you? These two labs actually charge MORE
for an Epson 9600 print than for LightJet or Chromira prints

I'll need color correction although I assume thats a given!!

The lowest prices are if they just take the file and print it with no
corrections (the $20 print from Calypso for example). This implies you've done
the color corrections, resized it to precisely 304.8 ppi for the LJ, added the
border and black line for cutting, sharpened it (hopefully using edge
sharpening), and converted to the right ICM profile for the paper you wish to
print on (you can download the profiles from their sites).

If you don't know how to do any of this you might consider taking the class at
Calypso taught by Apple Computer pioneer Bill Atkinson, which is excellent ...
the cost goes up if they scan and color correct or if they take your scan and
color correct. You can see the costs on the sites mentioned.

You should learn to do this yourself because there's no way their view of the
"correct colors" will always match your view.

WHAT IS THE NORMAL METHOD FOR THIS ROUTE!

Read the background info on the WCI and Calypso sites and email them if you
have further questions.

Bill

Large files are an issue perhaps unless you have a T1 connection
and they are on cable as well. Personally I have sent up to
a 10mb file from DSL to my lab in Baltimore 1 hour away.
They have an FTP server so loading the files is not an issue.

Most light jets print from 150 ppi
files so if your making them larger perhaps the lab will
down sample any way?

Your best bet is to mail or currier your CD rom to the lab
if large files for large prints are a requirement.




In article ,
"Jos. Burke" wrote:

I picked up a Nikon Ls 8000 and it does a great job and yes my local lab (an
hours drive away though!) can print on their Lightjet with great results but
how can I send online the big approx 225 MB .TIFF file and to whom at a
reasonable cost for a lightjet or similar print (RA-4) ---NO INKJET STUFF
PLEASE!!! Any recommendations!
I'll need color correction although I assume thats a given!!
WHAT IS THE NORMAL METHOD FOR THIS ROUTE!!
J Burke

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From: Gregory Blank

Most light jets print from 150 ppi
files so if your making them larger perhaps the lab will
down sample any way?

You have it backwards. The LightJet 5000 prints natively at rez 12 (12
lines/mm) which figures out to 304.8 ppi, and that's what you need to supply to
a lab like Calypso to get the best pre-flight prices. It will accept files at
rez 8 (203.2 ppi) and interpolate them up to rez 12 with little loss in
quality. Anything else gets re-interpolated by the guy running the machine
before he feeds it to the LJ.

Later models like the 430 have Americanized this to 300 and 200 ppi. So if
you're at 150 ppi you're only supplying about 25% of the required pixels.

Bill

I picked up a Nikon Ls 8000 and it does a great job and yes my local lab (an
hours drive away though!) can print on their Lightjet with great results but
how can I send online the big approx 225 MB .TIFF file and to whom at a
reasonable cost for a lightjet or similar print (RA-4) ---NO INKJET STUFF
PLEASE!!! Any recommendations!
I'll need color correction although I assume thats a given!!
WHAT IS THE NORMAL METHOD FOR THIS ROUTE!!
J Burke

Only relaying what was told to me by a local lab with the light jet
Are you sure your not thinking apparent ppi? I know the Lambda (which I
actually use requires a 200 or 400 ppi file, but then they claim
a 2400 ppi apparent resolution).



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dy (Bill Hilton) wrote:

From: Gregory Blank

Most light jets print from 150 ppi
files so if your making them larger perhaps the lab will
down sample any way?

You have it backwards. The LightJet 5000 prints natively at rez 12 (12
lines/mm) which figures out to 304.8 ppi, and that's what you need to supply
to
a lab like Calypso to get the best pre-flight prices. It will accept files
at
rez 8 (203.2 ppi) and interpolate them up to rez 12 with little loss in
quality. Anything else gets re-interpolated by the guy running the machine
before he feeds it to the LJ.

Later models like the 430 have Americanized this to 300 and 200 ppi. So if
you're at 150 ppi you're only supplying about 25% of the required pixels.

Bill

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Only relaying what was told to me by a local lab with the light jet
Are you sure your not thinking apparent ppi? I know the Lambda (which I
actually use requires a 200 or 400 ppi file, but then they claim
a 2400 ppi apparent resolution).



In article ,
dy (Bill Hilton) wrote:

From: Gregory Blank

Most light jets print from 150 ppi
files so if your making them larger perhaps the lab will
down sample any way?

You have it backwards. The LightJet 5000 prints natively at rez 12 (12
lines/mm) which figures out to 304.8 ppi, and that's what you need to supply
to
a lab like Calypso to get the best pre-flight prices. It will accept files
at
rez 8 (203.2 ppi) and interpolate them up to rez 12 with little loss in
quality. Anything else gets re-interpolated by the guy running the machine
before he feeds it to the LJ.

Later models like the 430 have Americanized this to 300 and 200 ppi. So if
you're at 150 ppi you're only supplying about 25% of the required pixels.

Bill

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

dy (Bill Hilton) wrote:

The LightJet 5000 prints natively at rez 12 (12
lines/mm) which figures out to 304.8 ppi ...

From: Gregory Blank

Are you sure your not thinking apparent ppi?

Yeah, I'm positive it's 304.8 ppi (12 scan lines/mm) since I took a three day
course with Bill Atkinson at Calypso and we got to learn quite a bit about the
LightJet 5000 in their lab.

"apparent ppi" is not the correct term, you probably meant "apparent dpi" (or
more precisely "effective dpi" since it's not laying down ink dots) since it's
on the output side of the printer. In other words they claimed the LJ output
is comparable in sharpness to a 4,800 dpi printer. They are just trying to
find a common grammar to describe how a laser printer would compare to an
inkjet in output resolution.

I know the Lambda (which I actually use requires a 200 or 400 ppi file

The Lambda's native rez is 400 ppi but it will take a 200 ppi file and
interpolate it up for you, just as the LightJet will take a 203.2 file (rez 8)
and interpolate up to 304.8 (rez 12) before printing.

but then they claim a 2400 ppi apparent resolution).

No, they claim a 2400 *DPI* apparent printer resolution, not "ppi". Pixels are
in the input file so that's where ppi comes from, but dpi refers to the printer
OUTPUT.

Bill