PING: Tony Cooper

I thought you might find this work to your liking.
https://valeriejardin.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/the-streets-of-san-francisco/

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Savageduck

On 13/07/2016 3:44 @wiz, Savageduck wrote:
I thought you might find this work to your liking.
https://valeriejardin.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/the-streets-of-san-francisco/




NICE!

On 7/13/2016 1:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
I thought you might find this work to your liking.
https://valeriejardin.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/the-streets-of-san-francisco/



Classic examples of Street. However,as an image why do they all look so
flat.

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PeterN

On 2016-07-13 12:27:10 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/13/2016 1:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
I thought you might find this work to your liking.
https://valeriejardin.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/the-streets-of-san-francisco/



Classic examples of Street. However,as an image why do they all look so flat.

Isn't it obvious? They haven't had the PeterN treatment.

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Regards,

Savageduck

On 7/13/2016 9:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 12:27:10 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/13/2016 1:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
I thought you might find this work to your liking.
https://valeriejardin.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/the-streets-of-san-francisco/




Classic examples of Street. However,as an image why do they all look
so flat.

Isn't it obvious? They haven't had the PeterN treatment.

It seems to me that the test is, If they were your shots, would you have
made them so flat.
To my eye they are much too flat, and need some punch. I've seen enough
of your shots to feel you would like a bit more punch in them.


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PeterN

On 2016-07-13 14:18:52 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/13/2016 9:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 12:27:10 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/13/2016 1:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
I thought you might find this work to your liking.
https://valeriejardin.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/the-streets-of-san-francisco/




Classic examples of Street. However,as an image why do they all look
so flat.

Isn't it obvious? They haven't had the PeterN treatment.

It seems to me that the test is, If they were your shots, would you
have made them so flat.
To my eye they are much too flat, and need some punch. I've seen enough
of your shots to feel you would like a bit more punch in them.

Think B&W film noire, or Henri Cartier-Bresson rather than "punch".

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Regards,

Savageduck

On 7/13/2016 10:22 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 14:18:52 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/13/2016 9:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 12:27:10 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/13/2016 1:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
I thought you might find this work to your liking.
https://valeriejardin.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/the-streets-of-san-francisco/





Classic examples of Street. However,as an image why do they all look
so flat.

Isn't it obvious? They haven't had the PeterN treatment.

It seems to me that the test is, If they were your shots, would you
have made them so flat.
To my eye they are much too flat, and need some punch. I've seen
enough of your shots to feel you would like a bit more punch in them.

Think B&W film noire, or Henri Cartier-Bresson rather than "punch".


Would you be happier is I said the images lacked tonal quality?
HCB's images all had a tonality, that those images lack. Think Weston.


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PeterN

On 2016-07-13 14:49:48 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/13/2016 10:22 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 14:18:52 +0000, PeterN said:
On 7/13/2016 9:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 12:27:10 +0000, PeterN said:
On 7/13/2016 1:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
I thought you might find this work to your liking.
https://valeriejardin.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/the-streets-of-san-francisco/


Classic examples of Street. However,as an image why do they all look
so flat.

Isn't it obvious? They haven't had the PeterN treatment.

It seems to me that the test is, If they were your shots, would you
have made them so flat.
To my eye they are much too flat, and need some punch. I've seen
enough of your shots to feel you would like a bit more punch in them.

Think B&W film noire, or Henri Cartier-Bresson rather than "punch".


Would you be happier is I said the images lacked tonal quality?
HCB's images all had a tonality, that those images lack. Think Weston.

I would hardly call Weston a "street photographer". That is like saying
AA was a postcard photographer.
Add to that he was shooting large format, contrasty, somewhat abstract
landscape, still life, and character portraiture, certaily not classic
street.


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 7/13/2016 11:50 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 14:49:48 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/13/2016 10:22 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 14:18:52 +0000, PeterN said:
On 7/13/2016 9:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 12:27:10 +0000, PeterN said:
On 7/13/2016 1:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
I thought you might find this work to your liking.
https://valeriejardin.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/the-streets-of-san-francisco/



Classic examples of Street. However,as an image why do they all look
so flat.

Isn't it obvious? They haven't had the PeterN treatment.

It seems to me that the test is, If they were your shots, would you
have made them so flat.
To my eye they are much too flat, and need some punch. I've seen
enough of your shots to feel you would like a bit more punch in them.

Think B&W film noire, or Henri Cartier-Bresson rather than "punch".


Would you be happier is I said the images lacked tonal quality?
HCB's images all had a tonality, that those images lack. Think Weston.

I would hardly call Weston a "street photographer". That is like saying
AA was a postcard photographer.
Add to that he was shooting large format, contrasty, somewhat abstract
landscape, still life, and character portraiture, certaily not classic
street.


So you think street should not have tonal gradations? (flat)

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PeterN

On 2016-07-13 17:24:53 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/13/2016 11:50 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 14:49:48 +0000, PeterN said:

On 7/13/2016 10:22 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 14:18:52 +0000, PeterN said:
On 7/13/2016 9:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-07-13 12:27:10 +0000, PeterN said:
On 7/13/2016 1:44 AM, Savageduck wrote:
I thought you might find this work to your liking.
https://valeriejardin.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/the-streets-of-san-francisco/


Classic examples of Street. However,as an image why do they all look
so flat.

Isn't it obvious? They haven't had the PeterN treatment.

It seems to me that the test is, If they were your shots, would you
have made them so flat.
To my eye they are much too flat, and need some punch. I've seen
enough of your shots to feel you would like a bit more punch in them.

Think B&W film noire, or Henri Cartier-Bresson rather than "punch".


Would you be happier is I said the images lacked tonal quality?
HCB's images all had a tonality, that those images lack. Think Weston.

I would hardly call Weston a "street photographer". That is like saying
AA was a postcard photographer.
Add to that he was shooting large format, contrasty, somewhat abstract
landscape, still life, and character portraiture, certaily not classic
street.


So you think street should not have tonal gradations? (flat)

I think that all photography is subject to the decisions of the
photographer, and the whims of the taste of the viewer. In the case of
the quite good examples of street photography by Valérie Jardin, when
he made whatever decisions he made in capturing his images, he did not
account for your particular whims of taste, nor should he.

If you are baffled regarding what and why he did what he did, you could
ask him.

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Regards,

Savageduck