Now THIS is what I call a pose...

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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William Graham wrote:
"Alan Browne" wrote in message

If you say things like the above and otherwise have a single leather
garment or eat meat, then you're simply a hypocrite.

Cheers,
Alan


Eating meat is a "gift of God".....It's almost impossible to be a
veggie.....The only one in my family is sick all the time. He gets
migraines from lack of protein.
That having been said, what's wrong with eating cows and pigs and
using their hides for your leather....All my leather items are either
pigskin or cowhide.

I have nothing at all against meat (at least for "animal rights" reasons).
Most "anti seal hunt" types do eat meat. The problem with reating meat is
it's incredibly inefficient in energy and pollution terms.

Yeah, but it isn't our fault.....I would blame "God" for it, if I believed
there was such a thing. - I have to admit, that I think the only excuse for
killing seals is if you are an Eskimo and eat the meat. I think killing them
so some Madison Avenue chick in NYC can wear them on her hands is rather
obscene.

On Jun 3, 4:54 pm, Annika1980 wrote:
On Jun 3, 4:23 pm, wrote:



In all good conscience, I can't eat meat Bill. I know it has protein
and vitamins you just can't get from another source. But I've seen
how the animals are treated and slaughtered and it doesn't sit well
with me.
Helen

Then you probably wouldn't want to come around my crib on Saturday
nights cause that's when I'm usually out back cooking some big fat NY
strips on the grill.

It wouldn't bother me. I'm use to eating in the company of meat
eaters. Everyone I know is a meat eater so it wouldn't bother me at
all. You've got the right to enjoy yourself!
Helen

William Graham wrote:

But I didn't ask to be born into this veil of tears

You were born in a veil? That explains everything. Did you remove it
after you matured?




mike vale II

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:44:44 -0700, "Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number
wrote:
: http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79856448/original
:
: Now if Skip Middleton could just get his nudie beauties to strike this
: pose...he'd be in business!
:
: Here's the same little female--with the most expressive face I've ever
: seen on a wild animal:
: http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79856449/original
:
: The above shots were both taken at 1000 ISO using the 1D Mark III.

I hope you at least threw her a fish, since it's obvious that you didn't
bother to get her to sign a model release.

: The following was shot at **2000 ISO**, but you'd NEVER guess that to
: look at the original.
: http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79856450/original
:
: It was quite dark, as I didn't get to the area until nearly 7:30PM, and
: also very overcast. I used a bit of fill flash from the 580EX II. The
: 1D3 made shooting at high ISO truly worry-free. So far, its high ISO
: performance has been amazing. It is *at least* as good as my 5D, which
: most would agree has the lowest noise at high ISO of any camera yet made...
:
: I see good things ahead for this new body...

Well, at upwards of $8000, it damn well ought to be good, right? ;^)

Bob

"Robert Coe" wrote:
:
: I see good things ahead for this new body...

Well, at upwards of $8000, it damn well ought to be good, right? ;^)

No, it's only US$4500....

David J. Littleboy
Too shallow of pocket and biceptually challenged for a 1-series camera in
Tokyo, Japan

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 12:27:41 -0700, wrote:
: On Jun 3, 1:31 pm, Alan Browne
: wrote:
: wrote:
: On Jun 3, 8:54 am, Jer wrote:
: My wife could use a new coat... has anybody seen my biggo baseball bat?
:
: jer
:
: Speaking of which, the one thing that makes me ashamed of being a
: Canadian is the seal hunt that occurs.
:
: If you say things like the above and otherwise have a single leather
: garment or eat meat, then you're simply a hypocrite.
:
: Cheers,
: Alan
:
: I was expecting to hear from you. And no, I don't eat meat, and I
: don't wear leather.

I do, but I don't think Alan's point is valid. As any rabbi can tell you, how
an animal is killed does matter. And being clubbed to death at an early age in
front of your parents and siblings isn't kosher in a civilized society.

Bob

On Jun 3, 6:40 pm, Robert Coe wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 12:27:41 -0700, wrote:

: On Jun 3, 1:31 pm, Alan Browne : wrote:
: wrote:

: On Jun 3, 8:54 am, Jer wrote:
: My wife could use a new coat... has anybody seen my biggo baseball bat?
:
: jer
:
: Speaking of which, the one thing that makes me ashamed of being a
: Canadian is the seal hunt that occurs.
:
: If you say things like the above and otherwise have a single leather
: garment or eat meat, then you're simply a hypocrite.
:
: Cheers,
: Alan
:
: I was expecting to hear from you. And no, I don't eat meat, and I
: don't wear leather.

I do, but I don't think Alan's point is valid. As any rabbi can tell you, how
an animal is killed does matter. And being clubbed to death at an early age in
front of your parents and siblings isn't kosher in a civilized society.

Bob

Amen to that!
Helen

On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 07:28:26 +0900, "David J. Littleboy"
wrote:
:
: "Robert Coe" wrote:
: :
: : I see good things ahead for this new body...
:
: Well, at upwards of $8000, it damn well ought to be good, right? ;^)
:
: No, it's only US$4500....

My error. I was thinking of the 16.7 MP version, the 1DS, the (20 MP?) Mark
III version of which apparently isn't out yet (an inference derived from B&H's
Web site, which would be expected to list it, but doesn't). A natural mistake;
I normally have no reason whatever to poke around the rarefied world of the
1D. :^|

:
: David J. Littleboy
: Too shallow of pocket and biceptually challenged for a 1-series camera in
: Tokyo, Japan
:
:

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 14:06:57 -0700, "William Graham" wrote:
:
: "Rita Ä Berkowitz" ritaberk2O04 @aol.com wrote in message
: ...
: William Graham wrote:
:
: Yeah, but that's just my euphemism for, "nature". We come from a long
: line of omnivores, and need meat for maintaining good health. As long
: as I am going to pig out on pork sausage, bacon and t-bones, I might
: as well use their hides too.......
:
: You can always use the hide from a naugasaurus.
:
: Rita
:
:
: Yeah, but have you ever tasted the meat from one of those things?

You could make it into sausage. As the old saying goes, "You don't want to
know what goes on in a sausage factory."

Bob

Robert Coe wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:44:44 -0700, "Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even
number wrote:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79856448/original

Now if Skip Middleton could just get his nudie beauties to strike
this pose...he'd be in business!

Here's the same little female--with the most expressive face I've
ever seen on a wild animal:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79856449/original

The above shots were both taken at 1000 ISO using the 1D Mark III.

I hope you at least threw her a fish, since it's obvious that you
didn't bother to get her to sign a model release.

The following was shot at **2000 ISO**, but you'd NEVER guess that to
look at the original.
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79856450/original

It was quite dark, as I didn't get to the area until nearly 7:30PM,
and also very overcast. I used a bit of fill flash from the 580EX
II. The 1D3 made shooting at high ISO truly worry-free. So far,
its high ISO performance has been amazing. It is *at least* as good
as my 5D, which most would agree has the lowest noise at high ISO of
any camera yet made...

I see good things ahead for this new body...

Well, at upwards of $8000, it damn well ought to be good, right? ;^)


True, but the camera doesn't "take good pictures" by itself...
These magnificent cameras assume you know what you're doing...
....which is why many rich newbies with a lot of cash by them...and then
wonder why their pictures still stink (Ducking, as the mud-slingers prepare
to bomb that set-up line...).

Mark

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Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
www.pbase.com/markuson