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Florida: Venice and Ding Darling, Venice rookery future
Hi all, since there has been some activity on this group
on the Venice rookery and Ding Darling, here are a few images processed from my ~4500 frames from last week: http://www.clarkvision.com/galleries/gallery.NEW Also there are some images from the Arizona Desert Museum. Concerning the Venice Rookery, what is it's future? There has been pressure to build on the grounds (fended off as I heard from locals), but with all the building activity in the region, there are many fewer birds nesting there than even 5 years ago. So where have the birds gone? Are there similar rookeries around that offer similar photo ops? Roger |
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Florida: Venice and Ding Darling, Venice rookery future
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:18:57 -0700, "Roger N. Clark (change username
to rnclark)" wrote: Hi all, since there has been some activity on this group on the Venice rookery and Ding Darling, here are a few images processed from my ~4500 frames from last week: http://www.clarkvision.com/galleries/gallery.NEW nice pics - as always i specially like this one: Image ID: egret.sunset.c02.29.2004.img_8300.b-600.jpg TITLE=Great Egret Sunset Silhouette Concerning the Venice Rookery, what is it's future? There has been pressure to build on the grounds (fended off as I heard from locals), but with all the building activity in the region, there are many fewer birds nesting there than even 5 years ago. So where have the birds gone? Are there similar rookeries around that offer similar photo ops? i always enjoyed beeing there and would hope that it will last for quite a long time from now. there are many places in sw florida to nest but so many on a small spot with that really good photo ops is not easy to find. Gruß Stefan -- People: http://www.stefanjondral.de/ Naturfotos: http://www.jondral-naturfoto.de/ |
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Florida: Venice and Ding Darling, Venice rookery future
Roger,
Very nice images. I also really liked your Mountain Lion http://clarkvision.com/galleries/gal....08.2004.img_6 463b-600.html Great expression, Great framing, Great Light, WOW! About the Rookery; You were there last week. Late February is not quite prime time for the Venice Rookery. So that might be part of the reason for the light activity. Plus, I have seen years where it is slow and years where the trees have been nearly destroyed by all the nesting. And there is a natural cycle of ebb and flow of birds in Rookeries to think about. But the main reason, for the lack of birds think is that is still early in the season. AFIK, the good shooting Rookeries are far and few between. What is so good about the known ones is the birds are acclimated to the people so we don't disturb the natural behaviors of the birds. And thusly they allow us to come very close. I used to actively search out new Rookeries in Florida and I do know a few, but access, shooting range, nest height and other variables make almost all of them pretty inhospitable to bird photographers. There used to be another nice Rookery in Sarasota (on private property), but they took out the alligator that was in the pond, because they feared it might attack some of their calves. Guess what happened. The Rookery died off. Alligators are necessary for a good Rookery. They protect the Rookery islands from Raccoons and other nest predators. I hope they did not take any gators from the Venice Rookery. -- PWW (Paul Wayne Wilson) Over 1,000 Photographs Online at, http://PhotoStockFile.com On 3/10/04 11:18 PM, in article , "Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" wrote: Hi all, since there has been some activity on this group on the Venice rookery and Ding Darling, here are a few images processed from my ~4500 frames from last week: http://www.clarkvision.com/galleries/gallery.NEW Also there are some images from the Arizona Desert Museum. Concerning the Venice Rookery, what is it's future? There has been pressure to build on the grounds (fended off as I heard from locals), but with all the building activity in the region, there are many fewer birds nesting there than even 5 years ago. So where have the birds gone? Are there similar rookeries around that offer similar photo ops? Roger |
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Florida: Venice and Ding Darling, Venice rookery future
Paul,
Thanks for the comments. PWW wrote: About the Rookery; You were there last week. Late February is not quite prime time for the Venice Rookery. So that might be part of the reason for the light activity. Plus, I have seen years where it is slow and years where the trees have been nearly destroyed by all the nesting. And there is a natural cycle of ebb and flow of birds in Rookeries to think about. But the main reason, for the lack of birds think is that is still early in the season. While I've only been going to the the Venice rookery for a couple of years, I've been in Jan., Feb, March, and April. The birds have been a similar density, but different (more anhingas as the season goes on). But this trip I encountered more locals and several independently on different days said I should have been there 5 or more years ago. Each explained about construction destroying surrounding habitat (off the present grounds) as well as threats to take some of the current land for other things, ranging from tall buildings to a veterans memorial. The local Audubon society successfully fended of building on the site, but the building around it continues. Personally, I like the present density. You can get nice clean images without other birds in the background. Even now it is sometimes difficult to get positioned right to get a good background, but there are enough clean possibilities, that you can simply choose a different target. AFIK, the good shooting Rookeries are far and few between. What is so good about the known ones is the birds are acclimated to the people so we don't disturb the natural behaviors of the birds. And thusly they allow us to come very close. I used to actively search out new Rookeries in Florida and I do know a few, but access, shooting range, nest height and other variables make almost all of them pretty inhospitable to bird photographers. There used to be another nice Rookery in Sarasota (on private property), but they took out the alligator that was in the pond, because they feared it might attack some of their calves. Guess what happened. The Rookery died off. Alligators are necessary for a good Rookery. They protect the Rookery islands from Raccoons and other nest predators. I hope they did not take any gators from the Venice Rookery. That's an interesting observation. I saw 2 alligators at Venice this trip, one last year (even got images of the alligator eating a young egret). Roger |
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Florida: Venice and Ding Darling, Venice rookery future
Roger,
Oooooo, lets see them. The very first photo I got published (and paid for) in a National Magazine was of a Great Blue Heron Catching and Eating a two and one half foot long live alligator. BTW, your comment "Most of your images are backlit or very large angle from sun to camera" surprised me. I did not realize that half of those pictures I put up were like that. I always like your observations. It is great to get such input and reevaluate my approach and vision. PWW -- PWW (Paul Wayne Wilson) Over 1,000 Photographs Online at, http://PhotoStockFile.com On 3/11/04 9:09 AM, in article , "Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" wrote: That's an interesting observation. I saw 2 alligators at Venice this trip, one last year (even got images of the alligator eating a young egret). Roger |
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"PWW" wrote
The very first photo I got published (and paid for) in a National Magazine was of a Great Blue Heron Catching and Eating a two and one half foot long live alligator. Now that's something I would think twice about before putting it in my mouth head first. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. psst.. want to buy an f-stop timer? nolindan.com/da/fstop/ |
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Florida: Venice and Ding Darling, Venice rookery future
It actually stabbed him through the head and neck first with it bill. It
held it that way for quite a while, or till the gator was almost dead. Then the GBH dunked it a bunch of times to wet it down for easy gulping and down it went. You can see it at my site, in the Great Blue Heron Index. It's the first image. When I did art shows it always was a great conversation starter, and I even sold a few. We called it "Taste Like Chicken" at the shows, and it always got a chuckle. PWW -- PWW (Paul Wayne Wilson) Over 1,000 Photographs Online at, http://PhotoStockFile.com On 3/11/04 1:19 PM, in article , "Nicholas O. Lindan" wrote: The very first photo I got published (and paid for) in a National Magazine was of a Great Blue Heron Catching and Eating a two and one half foot long live alligator. Now that's something I would think twice about before putting it in my mouth head first. |
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PWW wrote:
Roger, Oooooo, lets see them. Unfortunately, some tree branches blocked the view, but here is is. Warning: this is an alligator attacking an egret. The main lunge is not seen, but a little blood and the bird's wing hanging out of the mouth is. http://clarkvision.com/photo/alligator-egret |
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Florida: Venice and Ding Darling, Venice rookery future
Unfortunately, some tree branches blocked the view, but here is is.
Warning: this is an alligator attacking an egret. The main lunge is not seen, but a little blood and the bird's wing hanging out of the mouth is. http://clarkvision.com/photo/alligator-egret Nature at work. Nice images! Richard Navarrete Astrophotography Web Page - http://members.aol.com/richardn22 |
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