William Graham... explain this please.

"Doug Robbins" wrote in message ...
This political crap is off topic for this group.
Take it elsewhere. alt.politics or whatever.

It's not off-topic. I contemplated putting "OT" in the title before i
started this thread but then decided not. And here's why; there are
photographers who frequent this group who have been inconvenienced by
the politics of the Bush era, whether it be their films meticulously
searched in airports, or the many posts of photographers being stopped
and intimidated by homeland security and the like for simply snapping
a picture in public.

"Doug Robbins" wrote in message ...
This political crap is off topic for this group.
Take it elsewhere. alt.politics or whatever.

It's not off-topic. I contemplated putting "OT" in the title before i
started this thread but then decided not. And here's why; there are
photographers who frequent this group who have been inconvenienced by
the politics of the Bush era, whether it be their films meticulously
searched in airports, or the many posts of photographers being stopped
and intimidated by homeland security and the like for simply snapping
a picture in public.

"Doug Robbins" wrote in message ...
This political crap is off topic for this group.
Take it elsewhere. alt.politics or whatever.

It's not off-topic. I contemplated putting "OT" in the title before i
started this thread but then decided not. And here's why; there are
photographers who frequent this group who have been inconvenienced by
the politics of the Bush era, whether it be their films meticulously
searched in airports, or the many posts of photographers being stopped
and intimidated by homeland security and the like for simply snapping
a picture in public.

"William Graham" wrote in message news:Hymed.291843$MQ5.154338@attbi_s52...
"Annika1980" wrote in message
...
From: "William Graham"

But your point above about Bush being fascinated by large numbers of
people
dying tells me exactly where you are coming from. It completely destroys
your creditability with me.

What do Mr. Hickey's political views have to do with his ability to get
credit?

Nothing, but my post clearly illustrates the problems with spell checking
programs.......

Freudians would think nothing is ever innocent or accidental. It
probably means you won't be lending your money to any socialists.

"William Graham" wrote in message news:Hymed.291843$MQ5.154338@attbi_s52...
"Annika1980" wrote in message
...
From: "William Graham"

But your point above about Bush being fascinated by large numbers of
people
dying tells me exactly where you are coming from. It completely destroys
your creditability with me.

What do Mr. Hickey's political views have to do with his ability to get
credit?

Nothing, but my post clearly illustrates the problems with spell checking
programs.......

Freudians would think nothing is ever innocent or accidental. It
probably means you won't be lending your money to any socialists.

"William Graham" wrote in message news:Hymed.291843$MQ5.154338@attbi_s52...
"Annika1980" wrote in message
...
From: "William Graham"

But your point above about Bush being fascinated by large numbers of
people
dying tells me exactly where you are coming from. It completely destroys
your creditability with me.

What do Mr. Hickey's political views have to do with his ability to get
credit?

Nothing, but my post clearly illustrates the problems with spell checking
programs.......

Freudians would think nothing is ever innocent or accidental. It
probably means you won't be lending your money to any socialists.

"William Graham" wrote in message news:YC2ed.227597$wV.7768@attbi_s54...

So someone with a catastrophic illness can afford and does deserve his
burden,
but those earning more than $200,000 can not afford and do not deserve to
have
their tax cuts repealed?!

Look....It's very simple. I am a capitalist. I don't like "Medicare". I
don't like Social Security. I don't like unequal taxes. I want everyone to
be charged the same for the cost of government that they incur. The "rich"
have been taxed according to an accelerated tax table all of my life. I
learned this back in the days when I actually did my own income taxes. I
believe everyone should have to do their own income taxes, so they could see
how the government screws some people.
That's what I don't like. This is what I like....I like people to be
responsible for themselves. I like government policies that teach people to
be responsible for themselves. IOW, you should save for your own retirement.
You should buy your own health insurance on the open market. And the
government should not steal money from the ones who had the foresight to
save for their own retirement in order to pay the way of those who didn't.
Now, there are some people who couldn't pay their own way. I speak of people
who, for some reason or other, were born defective in some way, such that
they couldn't earn a decent wage. Their God has forsaken them. (I love to
tell the Christians) These people represent less than 2% of the general
population. I believe that these people should be paid an average wage by
the government. That means that 1/50th of everyone's paycheck should go into
this fund. But none of this money should be paid to anyone who is capable of
working, but who does not by choice. That means most of the millions who are
on welfare right now would be cut off at the pass......So there would be
more than enough money for this. The government is taxing us at a rate that
is ten times this right now.
Now....You asked me some question about Kerry's health plan....I don't
know anything about Kerry's health plan, except that it is nothing like the
plan that I described above. Neither is Bush's plan (if there is one)
anything like the plan I described above. We live in a Socialist society. I
hate it, but I have to live with it. But I always vote for less taxes on
anything that comes up on the ballot. I have never voted for the government
spending one lousy cent more than they do the day before the election, on
the day of the election. IOW, if it costs us one penny more, I vote against
it. So, my instinct tells me that I should vote against Kerry, and against
anything he wants to do. He is a socialist. Ralph Nader is a socialist. Bush
is 90% socialist. When I go to the polls on November 2nd, I will be
desperately casting my vote for that lousy 10% of Bush that is not
socialist. and that, is the best answer I can give you about the health
plans

Bill, what you are speaking of is neither novel or revolutionary. I
used to have such beliefs too, and aspired for a capitalist ideal.
That, however, changed on a visit to Thailand, and some other
underdeveloped nations. The political ideal of capitalism you aspire
for is exactly how it is in many underdeveloped nations, where
government is weak and welfare is absent, and it is almost precisely,
in my opinion, why they remain underdeveloped. The political ideal you
preach is exactly how it was in Europe prior to the French revolution,
and its abandonment, in my opinion, was a main reason why Europe
(North America is a European society) advanced so rapidly over the
rest of the world in the two centuries that followed.

"William Graham" wrote in message news:YC2ed.227597$wV.7768@attbi_s54...

So someone with a catastrophic illness can afford and does deserve his
burden,
but those earning more than $200,000 can not afford and do not deserve to
have
their tax cuts repealed?!

Look....It's very simple. I am a capitalist. I don't like "Medicare". I
don't like Social Security. I don't like unequal taxes. I want everyone to
be charged the same for the cost of government that they incur. The "rich"
have been taxed according to an accelerated tax table all of my life. I
learned this back in the days when I actually did my own income taxes. I
believe everyone should have to do their own income taxes, so they could see
how the government screws some people.
That's what I don't like. This is what I like....I like people to be
responsible for themselves. I like government policies that teach people to
be responsible for themselves. IOW, you should save for your own retirement.
You should buy your own health insurance on the open market. And the
government should not steal money from the ones who had the foresight to
save for their own retirement in order to pay the way of those who didn't.
Now, there are some people who couldn't pay their own way. I speak of people
who, for some reason or other, were born defective in some way, such that
they couldn't earn a decent wage. Their God has forsaken them. (I love to
tell the Christians) These people represent less than 2% of the general
population. I believe that these people should be paid an average wage by
the government. That means that 1/50th of everyone's paycheck should go into
this fund. But none of this money should be paid to anyone who is capable of
working, but who does not by choice. That means most of the millions who are
on welfare right now would be cut off at the pass......So there would be
more than enough money for this. The government is taxing us at a rate that
is ten times this right now.
Now....You asked me some question about Kerry's health plan....I don't
know anything about Kerry's health plan, except that it is nothing like the
plan that I described above. Neither is Bush's plan (if there is one)
anything like the plan I described above. We live in a Socialist society. I
hate it, but I have to live with it. But I always vote for less taxes on
anything that comes up on the ballot. I have never voted for the government
spending one lousy cent more than they do the day before the election, on
the day of the election. IOW, if it costs us one penny more, I vote against
it. So, my instinct tells me that I should vote against Kerry, and against
anything he wants to do. He is a socialist. Ralph Nader is a socialist. Bush
is 90% socialist. When I go to the polls on November 2nd, I will be
desperately casting my vote for that lousy 10% of Bush that is not
socialist. and that, is the best answer I can give you about the health
plans

Bill, what you are speaking of is neither novel or revolutionary. I
used to have such beliefs too, and aspired for a capitalist ideal.
That, however, changed on a visit to Thailand, and some other
underdeveloped nations. The political ideal of capitalism you aspire
for is exactly how it is in many underdeveloped nations, where
government is weak and welfare is absent, and it is almost precisely,
in my opinion, why they remain underdeveloped. The political ideal you
preach is exactly how it was in Europe prior to the French revolution,
and its abandonment, in my opinion, was a main reason why Europe
(North America is a European society) advanced so rapidly over the
rest of the world in the two centuries that followed.

"Annika1980" wrote in message
...
From: "William Graham"

The president is much weaker than most people would believe.....But
this doesn't stop the liberals from searching for a way to blame the
Vietnam
war on Bush.....:^)

Nobody blames Bush for Vietnam.
His lack of service during that time has come into question.

There is also some question of whether Bush is an alcoholic or simply a
"dry
drunk."

Why would it matter? - I am a cigarrett-a-haulic. I haven't smoked anything
since August 1st, 1983. But I am still addicted to cigarettes.....So what? -
As long as Bush doesn't drink, who cares whether he's an alcoholic or not?

"Annika1980" wrote in message
...
From: "William Graham"

The president is much weaker than most people would believe.....But
this doesn't stop the liberals from searching for a way to blame the
Vietnam
war on Bush.....:^)

Nobody blames Bush for Vietnam.
His lack of service during that time has come into question.

There is also some question of whether Bush is an alcoholic or simply a
"dry
drunk."

Why would it matter? - I am a cigarrett-a-haulic. I haven't smoked anything
since August 1st, 1983. But I am still addicted to cigarettes.....So what? -
As long as Bush doesn't drink, who cares whether he's an alcoholic or not?