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Old July 12th 07, 01:38 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Lew
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Default 35/120 proofer

Are there any proofers out there anymore that'll proof 120 and/or 35(6
frames x 6 strips) on an 8x10 sheet of paper? The sales people at BH are
unfamiliar with this concept & the closest we could find in their catalog
was $75.00!
-Lew

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Old July 12th 07, 01:57 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Nicholas O. Lindan
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"Lew" wrote

Are there any proofers out there anymore that'll proof 120 and/or 35(6
frames x 6 strips) on an 8x10 sheet of paper?


Most of the ones I know of are 7 strips of 5. Paterson used to make
a 6 strips x 6 exposures and I think they had a 120 - try ebay.

I just looked, they still make it -- but as you said $75 - Yikes!
I know they go on ebay in the $15 range.

I have a 7x5 Saunders that's sort of a pain but works well and without
glass. I often just put the negative filing sheet in a contact frame,
which is what I do with 120.

I used to lay the strips on the paper by hand and lower a sheet of
glass over them.

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Old July 12th 07, 02:28 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Lawrence Akutagawa
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Default 35/120 proofer


"Lew" wrote in message
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Are there any proofers out there anymore that'll proof 120 and/or 35(6
frames x 6 strips) on an 8x10 sheet of paper? The sales people at BH are
unfamiliar with this concept & the closest we could find in their catalog
was $75.00!
-Lew


** Cheapest solution -

Buy some double pane glass 10x12 (allows one inch on each side) from your
friendly neighborhood glass shop. Double pane because of added weight
Store negatives in clear plastic holders.
Place glass over negatives in holders over enlarging paper.

** More pricey solution -

- Patterson Pro Proofer

http://www.adorama.com/PAPPDE.html?s...ofer&item_no=1

- Porters Camera 35mm contact proofer

http://tinyurl.com/23htng

** Recommended solution (by me):

- Saunders Super Proofer -35 and -120 (no glass!)

http://tinyurl.com/2gb2cf
http://tinyurl.com/278wsd

These work like a charm! I've had mine for over 15 years and they still
work today as well as they did when new.


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Old July 12th 07, 03:01 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Draco
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Default 35/120 proofer

On Jul 11, 8:38 pm, "Lew" wrote:
Are there any proofers out there anymore that'll proof 120 and/or 35(6
frames x 6 strips) on an 8x10 sheet of paper? The sales people at BH are
unfamiliar with this concept & the closest we could find in their catalog
was $75.00!
-Lew

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-Lew
The workers took the robot for Maria.


Using the PrintFile negative sleeves and a double thick glass pane
larger than an 8x10 paper should cost no more than ten to fifteen
dollars at the most. It works easier than a proofer. You need to put
the negatives into a proofer then afterward take them out and place
them into the negative sleeves. Using the clear negative sleeves and
the glass to hold them to the paper is so much easier IMHO. And
faster.
The PrintFile 35-7B for 35mm film(Holds seven strips of five
negatives) and the 120-4B(Holds 4 strips of three negatives) fit an
8x10 paper and fit in a standard three ring note book without sticking
out of the cover. So you don't damage the end negatives.
I am sorry to say that a lot of sales people today have no concept
of Proofing negatives or making contact sheets. To much digital.


Draco


Getting even isn't good enough.


Doing better does.

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Old July 13th 07, 10:43 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Lew
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Default 35/120 proofer

What idiot came up with this configuration for 36 exposure rolls of film?

The PrintFile 35-7B for 35mm film(Holds seven strips of five
negatives)



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Old July 13th 07, 02:56 PM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Draco
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Default 35/120 proofer

On Jul 13, 5:43 am, "Lew" wrote:
What idiot came up with this configuration for 36 exposure rolls of film?



The PrintFile 35-7B for 35mm film(Holds seven strips of five
negatives)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Talk to the jokers at PrintFile. I happen to like the size just
because it fits an eight by ten sheet of paper for proofing and into a
three ring notebook. Which is a lot cheeper than the "photo preserve"
books.


Draco


Getting even isn't good enough.

Doing better does.

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Old July 17th 07, 03:04 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
darkroommike
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Default 35/120 proofer

Paterson makes three proofers, 35mm and 120mm format
specific and an oversize 9x12 that's all I ever use.

The Paterson 35mm shows up used once in a while but the
"mask" that holds the negs is a bit of a pain and the frame
numbers have to overlap to get it all on one sheet of paper.

I used 8 1/2 X 11 paper for years now I just shoot 30 shots
per roll, bulk loaded and proof 5 strips of 6 per 8x10 paper.


BTW I don't like the Patterson 120 since it does 4 strips of
3 (OK for 6x6 but does not work for 645). I prefer 3 strips
of 4 and buy printfile pages since they also work for 3
strips of 5 for 645 (if I had a Hasselblad 16 back I'd buy
the other pages also).

darkroommike

Lew wrote:
Are there any proofers out there anymore that'll proof 120 and/or 35(6
frames x 6 strips) on an 8x10 sheet of paper? The sales people at BH are
unfamiliar with this concept & the closest we could find in their catalog
was $75.00!
-Lew

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Old July 25th 07, 09:33 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Malcolm Smith
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Default 35/120 proofer

I gave up wet darkroom work several years ago because of poor eyes but I
used to proof 35 and 120 film using film strips in print file negative
sleeves held flat on the paper with a sheet of glass - worked great and
minimised handling of negatives

Malcolm


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Old July 26th 07, 02:16 AM posted to rec.photo.darkroom
Malcolm Smith
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Default 35/120 proofer

I forgot to add the "Print File" brand film sleeves are clear, made of
archival material and I bought last from B&H. This technique of proofing is
very quick also when doing lots of films.

Malcolm


 




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