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RichA wrote: https://www.adorama.com/gxrsakn95.ht...ce=rflaid67085 Beware ANYTHING made in China. Canada's recent shipment found 60% defective/unfit. I don't disagree, but IMHO it's not always (even usually) the Chinese "fault". I have bit of knowledge about having product manufactured in China. If you ask an American factory to cut the wholesale on something by $5, it generally means you're asking them to accept $5 less profit. Ash the same question in China, and the assumption is to find a way to manufacture it for less. My friend was having parrot cages made for USA sale. First batch was fine. "Great, now can you do it for $30 less?" Next batch had cheaper latches, and only one coat of paint. The factory rep was confused; to him, they'd done exactly as asked. They'll happily make you a $5 face mask or a 50¢ face mask. Just don't expect them to be the same. |
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On Wed, 6 May 2020 08:08:03 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote: On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:43:58 UTC-4, Scott Schuckert wrote: In article , RichA wrote: https://www.adorama.com/gxrsakn95.ht...ce=rflaid67085 Beware ANYTHING made in China. Canada's recent shipment found 60% defective/unfit. I don't disagree, but IMHO it's not always (even usually) the Chinese "fault". I have bit of knowledge about having product manufactured in China. I remember one company in Toronto had medical tape made in China. They shipped it out only to have it returned because it contained insects stuck to it. There is also evidence now that farming out even low-end or low-intellectual end products is having a negative impact on the development of cutting-edge technology products in North American and Europe. Heh. Who are the "running dogs" of capitalism now? |
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On Wed, 06 May 2020 11:21:40 -0500, Bill W
wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2020 08:08:03 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:43:58 UTC-4, Scott Schuckert wrote: In article , RichA wrote: https://www.adorama.com/gxrsakn95.ht...ce=rflaid67085 Beware ANYTHING made in China. Canada's recent shipment found 60% defective/unfit. I don't disagree, but IMHO it's not always (even usually) the Chinese "fault". I have bit of knowledge about having product manufactured in China. I remember one company in Toronto had medical tape made in China. They shipped it out only to have it returned because it contained insects stuck to it. There is also evidence now that farming out even low-end or low-intellectual end products is having a negative impact on the development of cutting-edge technology products in North American and Europe. Heh. Who are the "running dogs" of capitalism now? I went to Cuba in 1979 as part of a government-sponsored program to get the opinion of business owners on whether or not we should open trade with Cuba. We were assigned a young female guide who provided a tour of Havana. During her running commentary on the sights from the bus, she actually used the phrase "Running dog capitalists" to describe Americans. We went by some apartment buildings and she made a point that, in Cuba, they had free elections and everyone voted. Unlike America, she said, there was 100% turn-out for elections. I later walked up to one of the apartments and noticed that the election results were posted outside of the building. Every resident of the apartment building was listed, and the columns indicated which candidate that person voted for. There was an unbroken column of checkmarks for one of the candidates. Free election, but everyone could see who voted for whom. Towards the end of the bus tour I asked the guide if I could get off the bus and walk around Havana by myself. She said I could, but it was not recommended and discouraged me from doing so. I insisted, she continued to say that I could go off on my own, but that it was not recommended. I did get off, and walked around by myself for a couple of hours. The people I ran into were very pleasant and friendly. They all sensed I was American...probably by my clothes. The only problem I encountered was that several people wanted to buy my watch or asked if I had clothes I wanted to sell. All that was available to them were East European goods that were mostly of inferior quality. One of the members of my group had been born in Cuba, but had been able to emigrate to the US several years before. His brother and family remained in Cuba. When we left to return to the states, several of us gave the Cuban member our unwashed laundry items...shirts, underwear, and socks. He gave the items to his brother before we left. It seemed strange to give away unlaundered items, but he said his brother would be glad to have them. He was especially pleased that I donated a leather belt. His brother was wearing a belt made out of some pressed paper stuff that was taped up in several places. On arriving, we had to purchase $100 in Cuban currency. We could not exchange any Cuban currency back to US currency, and anything we had left had to be spent in the airport shop or taken back home. Except for ice cream sold in a square in Havana, there was little of interest to spend money on while were there, so most of us had most of the $100 left. One peso was US $1.00 at the government exchange, but Cubans would offer up to 5 pesos for an American dollar. It was illegal to do that, though, and I never did. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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On May 6, 2020, Tony Cooper wrote
(in ): On arriving, we had to purchase $100 in Cuban currency. We could not exchange any Cuban currency back to US currency, and anything we had left had to be spent in the airport shop or taken back home. Except for ice cream sold in a square in Havana, there was little of interest to spend money on while were there, so most of us had most of the $100 left. One peso was US $1.00 at the government exchange, but Cubans would offer up to 5 pesos for an American dollar. It was illegal to do that, though, and I never did. Today there are two rates for the Cuban Peso, Normal, or Cuban Convertible Peso: Normal Cuban Peso: CUP1= US $0.039 / $1= CUP25.75 Cuban Convertible Peso: CUC$1= US $1 So for you not too much has changed since 1979. I guess US tourists get special treatment. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On Wed, 06 May 2020 13:29:03 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: On May 6, 2020, Tony Cooper wrote (in ): On arriving, we had to purchase $100 in Cuban currency. We could not exchange any Cuban currency back to US currency, and anything we had left had to be spent in the airport shop or taken back home. Except for ice cream sold in a square in Havana, there was little of interest to spend money on while were there, so most of us had most of the $100 left. One peso was US $1.00 at the government exchange, but Cubans would offer up to 5 pesos for an American dollar. It was illegal to do that, though, and I never did. Today there are two rates for the Cuban Peso, Normal, or Cuban Convertible Peso: Normal Cuban Peso: CUP1= US $0.039 / $1= CUP25.75 Cuban Convertible Peso: CUC$1= US $1 So for you not too much has changed since 1979. I guess US tourists get special treatment. We did then. We were in a hotel in Havana that was exclusively for visitors from other countries. Cuban residents were not allowed above the lobby, and could not eat in the dining room. Most of the other guests in the hotel were either Russians or people from some other Eastern European state. A few from somewhere in Africa. The Russians would not ride in the elevator with an American. They would either get out of the elevator if we started to get in, or decline to get in if an American was already in. One day we were taken a shop where American and (Western) European clothing and other items were sold. Very pricey designer stuff. The shop would only accept American currency or credit cards. I was told that Party officials and Russians could shop there, but I don't know what currency they used. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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Except for ice cream sold in a square in Havana, there was little of interest to spend money on while were there, so most of us had most of the $100 left. One peso was US $1.00 at the government exchange, but Cubans would offer up to 5 pesos for an American dollar. It was illegal to do that, though, and I never did. Today there are two rates for the Cuban Peso, Normal, or Cuban Convertible Peso: Normal Cuban Peso: CUP1= US $0.039 / $1= CUP25.75 Cuban Convertible Peso: CUC$1= US $1 Back in the 1960s/70s, there were two official exchange rates for US dollars to Israeli Lira. One was the standard conversion used, for example, if an American tourist was paying for a hotel room. The other was the "investment rate", that is, if an American or Brit, etc., was building a textile factory in Dimona, Israel, they'd get a better one. For the sake of illustration, the standard rate might have been 5 Lira per dollar, while the investment rate was 20... And then..... there was the black market rate which you (as a tourist) could get both in alleys and... in plenty of brick and mortar real stores. Or, for that matter, in your hotel lobby. What was fascinating back then was that the Jerusalem Post (the primary English language daily in Israel with copies avialble in NYC...) had a listing for all three. Yes, including the black market number... -- __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] |
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On Wed, 6 May 2020 21:40:14 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
wrote: [lots snipped including attribs. Sorry...] Except for ice cream sold in a square in Havana, there was little of interest to spend money on while were there, so most of us had most of the $100 left. One peso was US $1.00 at the government exchange, but Cubans would offer up to 5 pesos for an American dollar. It was illegal to do that, though, and I never did. Today there are two rates for the Cuban Peso, Normal, or Cuban Convertible Peso: Normal Cuban Peso: CUP1= US $0.039 / $1= CUP25.75 Cuban Convertible Peso: CUC$1= US $1 Back in the 1960s/70s, there were two official exchange rates for US dollars to Israeli Lira. One was the standard conversion used, for example, if an American tourist was paying for a hotel room. The other was the "investment rate", that is, if an American or Brit, etc., was building a textile factory in Dimona, Israel, they'd get a better one. For the sake of illustration, the standard rate might have been 5 Lira per dollar, while the investment rate was 20... And then..... there was the black market rate which you (as a tourist) could get both in alleys and... in plenty of brick and mortar real stores. Or, for that matter, in your hotel lobby. What was fascinating back then was that the Jerusalem Post (the primary English language daily in Israel with copies avialble in NYC...) had a listing for all three. Yes, including the black market number... In 1988 my wife and I went to Kenya. We'd booked a game park tour, and the tour guide drove us around Nairobi the first day we were there. We witnessed a policeman beating the **** out of some guy. The tour guide shrugged it off and said the guy had probably stolen something, and local justice was swift. One of the things we had been advised about was that it was illegal in Kenya to exchange American dollars anywhere except in an approved currency exchange. Walking around Nairobi later that night, several men approached us asking if we had American dollars and offering large amounts of Kenyan shillings (about 6 cents, then) for US$s. Remembering that policeman and the local swift justice, we backed away quickly. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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