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I guess that's what being an artist is about. Things don't have to
be vastly profound to be enjoyable to behold. If we lack a certain sensitivity to our world what are we? and that goes for how we treat others,....perhaps I am not always the best at interpersonal skills but I believe I try :-) And this "is" the Usenet love it with all its quirks and quacks or leave it. In article , "No One" wrote: It is wondrous how with a hundred or more years of photographic image making someone still manages to amaze with as simple a thing as a photograph of a flower, a face or a shoe. -- LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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This type of stupidity is why scarpitti has no credibility in this or any other
newsgroup. I'm sure he's never heard about press cameras or Weegee. Michael Scarpitti wrote: : "Bert" wrote in message ... : Hi, : : I've just discovered your newsgroup, so here goes! : : I want to move up from 35mm / digital because for me quality of final image : is important. : What kind of photography is important to you? That's really the : question. You can get really high quality images with 4 x 5. but : spontaneity is out of the question. There are no motorized 4 x 5 : cameras (except large roll aerial cameras). : I'm unsure wether to go to 6x6 or right into 5x4 (shooting : mainly ladscapes). : You may tire of landscapes before you know it. It's overdone, anyway. : And often poorly. : I've seen the quality you can get from 5x4 (fantastic), : but I have some concerns and questions. If anyone can advise or maybe there : is a 'beginners website', a link of two would be appreciated. I'd add that I : like to take my time over taking a photograph, so setting up and time isn't : a problem. : : Here are some of my questions: : : Cost is not an issue, and I appreciate finest engineering / optical quality, : so recommendations for suitable cameras please (Ebony? Hasselblad - is the : SWC worth considering?) : : How much 'better' is 5x4" over top quality 6x6cm (typically I'd want : enlargements to A2/A1) : : What's the best lens available (wide-angle)? : : I've been told you need to take the lenses apart to mount on the board, is : this difficult or can it be done by the dealer? : : Is the fuji quickload system worth considering? : : How do you develop the film (!) - how easy/difficult is it compared to : processing 35mm? : : On a picture by picture basis, how much does it cost on average to process : and print the relative formats? : : : I have a hundred more questions! : : Any help or comments appreciated. : : Regards : : Steve -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- |
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Frank Pittel wrote in message ...
This type of stupidity is why scarpitti has no credibility in this or any other newsgroup. I'm sure he's never heard about press cameras or Weegee. They're not made anymore, sonny. Nor are press films. Remember Royal Pan? Gone. Arrow Pan? Gone. Super Panchro Press Type B? Gone. And I'm sure you can stroll into your local camera shop and find NEW Graflexes. Weegee? I saw his stuff when I was a kid, before you even HEARD of silver halides. WE REALLY DON'T NEED ANY MORE LANDSCAPE PHOTOGRAPHERS. There are LOTS of other things to photograph that are underdone, Frank: Her are some I suggest YOU try: The openings of active volcanos. Lava flows. Mud slides. Hurricanes. Terrorist, Mafia, and KKK meetings. Nuclear Tests. Michael Scarpitti wrote: : "Bert" wrote in message ... : Hi, : : I've just discovered your newsgroup, so here goes! : : I want to move up from 35mm / digital because for me quality of final image : is important. : What kind of photography is important to you? That's really the : question. You can get really high quality images with 4 x 5. but : spontaneity is out of the question. There are no motorized 4 x 5 : cameras (except large roll aerial cameras). : I'm unsure wether to go to 6x6 or right into 5x4 (shooting : mainly ladscapes). : You may tire of landscapes before you know it. It's overdone, anyway. : And often poorly. : I've seen the quality you can get from 5x4 (fantastic), : but I have some concerns and questions. If anyone can advise or maybe there : is a 'beginners website', a link of two would be appreciated. I'd add that I : like to take my time over taking a photograph, so setting up and time isn't : a problem. : : Here are some of my questions: : : Cost is not an issue, and I appreciate finest engineering / optical quality, : so recommendations for suitable cameras please (Ebony? Hasselblad - is the : SWC worth considering?) : : How much 'better' is 5x4" over top quality 6x6cm (typically I'd want : enlargements to A2/A1) : : What's the best lens available (wide-angle)? : : I've been told you need to take the lenses apart to mount on the board, is : this difficult or can it be done by the dealer? : : Is the fuji quickload system worth considering? : : How do you develop the film (!) - how easy/difficult is it compared to : processing 35mm? : : On a picture by picture basis, how much does it cost on average to process : and print the relative formats? : : : I have a hundred more questions! : : Any help or comments appreciated. : : Regards : : Steve |
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Gregory Blank wrote in message ...
I disagree with Michael as well, there are alot of bad images in any one catagory. But there alot great scenics done as well. Mike likes to generalize to suit his personal taste or lack of it, in his case. You really don't think there's too much bad landscape photography being created? Stop at your local library some time and look at the 'show of the month'. In article , "No One" wrote: Well no. Some types are not all that over done and not all images are poor. Like any other type of photography. Oh what hell just give it all up right Mike? In article , (Michael Scarpitti) wrote: You may tire of landscapes before you know it. It's overdone, anyway. And often poorly. |
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Gregory Blank wrote in message ...
I disagree with Michael as well, there are alot of bad images in any one catagory. But there alot great scenics done as well. Mike likes to generalize to suit his personal taste or lack of it, in his case. You really don't think there's too much bad landscape photography being created? Stop at your local library some time and look at the 'show of the month'. In article , "No One" wrote: Well no. Some types are not all that over done and not all images are poor. Like any other type of photography. Oh what hell just give it all up right Mike? In article , (Michael Scarpitti) wrote: You may tire of landscapes before you know it. It's overdone, anyway. And often poorly. |
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Its not that there is too much of any one type of "bad" photography
its that anyone with a camera can consider or aspire them self to be an "artist" of a specific tyoe take yourself as an example :-) Not to say that anyone should be denied the right to try mind you, but we all have our own personal tastes. In essence I really don't care what other photographer's photograph I just don't have the time to closely follow other peoples work at this point. Since I am fairly open minded (Or so I have been told) it has to be rather bad to make me cringe. Realistically if any project overshadows the "artist" its time to move on,...few artists/photographers can say they moved on in time to avoid being type cast. Look at the work of Thomas Kincade, some people love his stuff and can't enough. Surely the man is laughing all the way to the bank. But I am sure he still likes what he does, do you think he really cares what some critic says as long as his work sells? And who is the critic who never created anything that other people responded favorably to? In article , (Michael Scarpitti) wrote: Gregory Blank wrote in message ... I disagree with Michael as well, there are alot of bad images in any one catagory. But there alot great scenics done as well. Mike likes to generalize to suit his personal taste or lack of it, in his case. You really don't think there's too much bad landscape photography being created? Stop at your local library some time and look at the 'show of the month'. -- LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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Its not that there is too much of any one type of "bad" photography
its that anyone with a camera can consider or aspire them self to be an "artist" of a specific tyoe take yourself as an example :-) Not to say that anyone should be denied the right to try mind you, but we all have our own personal tastes. In essence I really don't care what other photographer's photograph I just don't have the time to closely follow other peoples work at this point. Since I am fairly open minded (Or so I have been told) it has to be rather bad to make me cringe. Realistically if any project overshadows the "artist" its time to move on,...few artists/photographers can say they moved on in time to avoid being type cast. Look at the work of Thomas Kincade, some people love his stuff and can't enough. Surely the man is laughing all the way to the bank. But I am sure he still likes what he does, do you think he really cares what some critic says as long as his work sells? And who is the critic who never created anything that other people responded favorably to? In article , (Michael Scarpitti) wrote: Gregory Blank wrote in message ... I disagree with Michael as well, there are alot of bad images in any one catagory. But there alot great scenics done as well. Mike likes to generalize to suit his personal taste or lack of it, in his case. You really don't think there's too much bad landscape photography being created? Stop at your local library some time and look at the 'show of the month'. -- LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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Michael Scarpitti wrote:
: Frank Pittel wrote in message ... : This type of stupidity is why scarpitti has no credibility in this or any other : newsgroup. I'm sure he's never heard about press cameras or Weegee. : They're not made anymore, sonny. Nor are press films. Remember Royal : Pan? Gone. Arrow Pan? Gone. Super Panchro Press Type B? Gone. I would rather use a high quality modern film such as Tmax100 or Tmax400 others might prefer Tri-x. : And I'm sure you can stroll into your local camera shop and find NEW : Graflexes. Don't need to. There are a lot high quality used ones available. If for some idiotic reason I would only want to use a new camera I can go into a local camera store and buy a horseman or Toyo press camera. You need to expand your horizons a little and look past the brand name. There's a whole world beyond leica and hasselblad. : Weegee? I saw his stuff when I was a kid, before you even HEARD of : silver halides. It's good to see that you're backing off of your idiotic claim that spontaneity is out of the question with LF photography. : WE REALLY DON'T NEED ANY MORE LANDSCAPE PHOTOGRAPHERS. : There are LOTS of other things to photograph that are underdone, : Frank: : Her are some I suggest YOU try: : The openings of active volcanos. : Lava flows. : Mud slides. : Hurricanes. : Terrorist, Mafia, and KKK meetings. : Nuclear Tests. All real good ideas. Why don't you give some of them a try. : : : Michael Scarpitti wrote: : : "Bert" wrote in message ... : : Hi, : : : : I've just discovered your newsgroup, so here goes! : : : : I want to move up from 35mm / digital because for me quality of final image : : is important. : : : What kind of photography is important to you? That's really the : : question. You can get really high quality images with 4 x 5. but : : spontaneity is out of the question. There are no motorized 4 x 5 : : cameras (except large roll aerial cameras). : : : I'm unsure wether to go to 6x6 or right into 5x4 (shooting : : mainly ladscapes). : : : : You may tire of landscapes before you know it. It's overdone, anyway. : : And often poorly. : : : I've seen the quality you can get from 5x4 (fantastic), : : but I have some concerns and questions. If anyone can advise or maybe there : : is a 'beginners website', a link of two would be appreciated. I'd add that I : : like to take my time over taking a photograph, so setting up and time isn't : : a problem. : : : : Here are some of my questions: : : : : Cost is not an issue, and I appreciate finest engineering / optical quality, : : so recommendations for suitable cameras please (Ebony? Hasselblad - is the : : SWC worth considering?) : : : : How much 'better' is 5x4" over top quality 6x6cm (typically I'd want : : enlargements to A2/A1) : : : : What's the best lens available (wide-angle)? : : : : I've been told you need to take the lenses apart to mount on the board, is : : this difficult or can it be done by the dealer? : : : : Is the fuji quickload system worth considering? : : : : How do you develop the film (!) - how easy/difficult is it compared to : : processing 35mm? : : : : On a picture by picture basis, how much does it cost on average to process : : and print the relative formats? : : : : : : I have a hundred more questions! : : : : Any help or comments appreciated. : : : : Regards : : : : Steve -- Keep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- |
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