D80: problems -- camera stops shooting...

Paul Furman wrote:
philippe wrote:
maya wrote:
Tony Polson wrote:
maya wrote:

hi, I have a Nikon D80..

after I have shot a few photos in quick succession, the camera stops

After shooting a certain number of shots, the memory buffer will be
full. You will not be able to shoot any further shots until the image
files in the memory buffer are written to the memory card.

It is perfectly normal. RTFM.

oh brother.. this sucks.. so this memory buffer is like a
hard-drive and photos autom. get transferred to card from there.. I
thought maybe I'd be able to improve this by hooking it up to an AC
line (plug it to the wall.. but maybe even not like that.. I
guess the memory buffer is kind of small....

so how fast photos get transferred, does this depend on what memory
card I have?

thank you very much...

That, and the format you're saving to.. Raw = slow..

When I need to shoot bursts, I go to jpeg only, like a bee in flight for
example.

Right.. According to *my* manual (D70, so you should have same/better)
RAW gets about 4 fps while JPEG hits 12 fps..


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In article 2mxJi.7865$nO3.2451@edtnps90,
philippe wrote:

Right.. According to *my* manual (D70, so you should have same/better)
RAW gets about 4 fps while JPEG hits 12 fps..


I don't think I get more than 2 fps on my D80. I shoot normal 10MP jpg.
The specs say 3. Can the D70 really get 12?

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m-m



You get 3fps under the conditions specified in the manual.

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M-M wrote:

In article 2mxJi.7865$nO3.2451@edtnps90,
philippe wrote:

Right.. According to *my* manual (D70, so you should have same/better)
RAW gets about 4 fps while JPEG hits 12 fps..

I don't think I get more than 2 fps on my D80. I shoot normal 10MP jpg.
The specs say 3. Can the D70 really get 12?

dpreview says 3 fps up to 12 images. not 12 fps. even the d3 doesn't
get 12 fps.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Nikon/nikon_d70.asp

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In article 2mxJi.7865$nO3.2451@edtnps90,
philippe wrote:

Right.. According to *my* manual (D70, so you should have same/better)
RAW gets about 4 fps while JPEG hits 12 fps..


I don't think I get more than 2 fps on my D80. I shoot normal 10MP jpg.
The specs say 3. Can the D70 really get 12?

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m-m



You get 3fps under the conditions specified in the manual.
What they said..

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Don Wiss wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:21:23 -0400, maya wrote:

hi, I have a Nikon D80..

after I have shot a few photos in quick succession, the camera stops
shooting..

Please tell us what memory card you are using.

Don www.donwiss.com/pictures/ (e-mail link at page bottoms).

thank you very much to ALL for your responses.. unfortunately I think
the problem is worse than I thought.. yesterday afternoon I was at a
park near my house shooting photos with a friend, I was not shooting in
quick succession, just shooting, you know, like a "normal" person....

and even then I would have to wait sometimes, b/c camera not take photo
when I pressed shutter all the way down... this had never happened
before... this is definitely something new, my camera has never behaved
this way, I purchased it last February... I have two memory cards of 2
GB each, one is a SanDisk the other a Toshiba, don't know more details,
would have to look @ home tonight; at any rate am using the same two
memory cards that I've been using since purchased the camera... (as far
as shooting format, I always shoot JPG, the largest.. again, have
always done this..) i.e., nothing has changed in terms of how I do
things, what has changed is the camera behavior..

one thing someone said in one of the responses that I found somewhat
interesting is that maybe the camera is saving photos directly to the
memory card instead of going thru the buffer memory first, is this
possible? is it possible I might have inadvertently changed a setting
that affects this? (didn't know about buffer and all this till this
happened.. so I gather it's faster to go thru buffer? and there is a
CHOICE betw. saving photos in buffer or saving them directly to the
memory card?)

thank you very much to all for your responses...

maya wrote:
i.e., nothing has changed in terms of how I do
things, what has changed is the camera behavior..

Check the manual and do a reset of the camera; specifically, to reset
all the options to default. It's worth trying before you send it for
repair.

If you have the opportunity, try swapping memory cards & the lens with
another body to see which part the behavior follows.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:49:59 -0400, maya wrote:

thank you very much to ALL for your responses.. unfortunately I think
the problem is worse than I thought.. yesterday afternoon I was at a
park near my house shooting photos with a friend, I was not shooting in
quick succession, just shooting, you know, like a "normal" person....

and even then I would have to wait sometimes, b/c camera not take photo
when I pressed shutter all the way down... this had never happened
before... this is definitely something new, my camera has never behaved
this way, I purchased it last February... I have two memory cards of 2
GB each, one is a SanDisk the other a Toshiba, don't know more details,
would have to look @ home tonight; at any rate am using the same two
memory cards that I've been using since purchased the camera... (as far
as shooting format, I always shoot JPG, the largest.. again, have
always done this..) i.e., nothing has changed in terms of how I do
things, what has changed is the camera behavior..

You need to provide more details. What you've stated is fine if
you were in a conversation, but there are too many questions that
need to be asked, and I think that you'd be happier if the exchanges
didn't drag out over many days. You initially said that you were
shooting in AF-C mode. Are you still shooting in this mode,
exclusively? If you've tried using AF-S, do you still get the
unusually long delays? If so, what happens if the D80 is set for
manual focusing? What mode are you shooting in, Programmed Auto,
Shutter Priority or Aperture Priority, and what are lens are you
using? Also, could you describe the delays? Do they get longer if
you shoot more shots, and how long are they? Have you tried to
reset the D80? If not, see page 44 of the D80's manual which
describes the Two-Button Reset procedure, and the options that it
will reset to default values.


one thing someone said in one of the responses that I found somewhat
interesting is that maybe the camera is saving photos directly to the
memory card instead of going thru the buffer memory first, is this
possible? is it possible I might have inadvertently changed a setting
that affects this? (didn't know about buffer and all this till this
happened.. so I gather it's faster to go thru buffer? and there is a
CHOICE betw. saving photos in buffer or saving them directly to the
memory card?)

I'm not aware of any DSLR that allows you to bypass its buffer.
Have you ever formatted your memory cards in the camera? If not,
copy all photos from the cards to your computer (backing them up
would also be a good idea) and then format them in the camera. I've
seen some manuals that state that the rated performance is tested
using formatted memory cards, so presumably, performance drops
somewhat if you've used the camera for quite a while since it was
last formatted. Also, the D80 manual states on page 16 :

Format cards in the camera. Performance may drop if
they are formatted in a computer.

Dpreview has tables showing the D80's timings for various
operations including continuous shooting, and you may want to
compare its results with what you're getting. Note though, that
they used two 2GB cards, a Sandisk Extreme III SD and a Lexar Pro
133x SD. A faster card probably won't do any better, but if your
Sandisk and Toshiba cards aren't as fast, the times you get may be
much longer. FWIW, there's also this note :

The D80 will shoot continuously at three frames per second
for 33 seconds (110 frames) then stop, for no apparent reason
the buffer counter runs to zero and the camera stops. If you let
go of the shutter release button at this point the buffer counter
jumps back up to 9 and you can start shooting another burst of
110 frames. Very odd.

I don't know if this is in any way related to the problem you're
having, but it has me wondering if perhaps the way you're pressing
the shutter release button might be a factor. One way to tell might
be to have you try someone else's D80 that hasn't been having long
delays, and to have the owner of the other D80 try using your camera
to see if the delays do or don't continue.

On 2007-09-22 15:21:23 -0700, maya said:

hi, I have a Nikon D80..

after I have shot a few photos in quick succession, the camera stops
shooting.. (by "stops" I mean camera doesn't take photo when I press
shutter all the way down..) one thing I notice is that it when doesn't
take photo the focus brackets flash red..

This sounds like a slower response than the time it should take to
write to your memory cards from the buffer.

I suspect either a bad contact on the lens or a bent pin in the memory
card slot.

I think a repair shop should look at it.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:05:36 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:

This sounds like a slower response than the time it should take to
write to your memory cards from the buffer.

I suspect either a bad contact on the lens or a bent pin in the memory
card slot.

A poor connection with the contacts on the lens might be a
possibility, but how could a bent pin in the memory card slot cause
a problem even if the D80 used CF instead of SD cards? As far as
I'm aware, consumer cameras don't use fuzzy memory.

On Sep 22, 5:21 pm, maya wrote:
I put in a freshly-charged battery, which made it a bit
better at the beginning, but then it stopped again, after I shot a few
photos..

Have you tried a new battery? Have you tried another battery charger?
I thought the symptoms sounded like a battery incapable of providing
enough power. Then I went back and saw your comment about it getting
better following a charge.

Perhaps the battery is worn out or the charger is not capable of fully
charging it.

HTH,
hank