Samy 12/2.0 in the Building

I ordered the Samy 12/2.0 some time ago and it has finally arrived. I've
been critical to the QC earlier and am pleased to see that this one was
clearly better assembled than the 14/2.8, that I had to fix both the
scale, infinity and some decentering...

This time its only a tad over focusing at infinity, but that's way
better than the other way around and the scale seems about right. In my
first assessment I can't se any heavy decentering.

I've paid for all my lenses with my own money...

A SOOC (Straight out of Camera) JPG at f/2.0 can be found here over the
weekend:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zq2rov0tu66tk/i160506%237817.jpg?dl=0

I might write an evaluation of the M system later and perhaps post it on
my blog in the fall.

Edit: Pasted the wrong URL. Corrected now. Sorry. ;-P
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In article ,
RichA wrote:

On Friday, 6 May 2016 08:34:19 UTC-4, android wrote:
I ordered the Samy 12/2.0 some time ago and it has finally arrived. I've
been critical to the QC earlier and am pleased to see that this one was
clearly better assembled than the 14/2.8, that I had to fix both the
scale, infinity and some decentering...

This time its only a tad over focusing at infinity, but that's way
better than the other way around and the scale seems about right. In my
first assessment I can't se any heavy decentering.

I've paid for all my lenses with my own money...

A SOOC (Straight out of Camera) JPG at f/2.0 can be found here over the
weekend:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zq2rov0tu66tk/i160506%237817.jpg?dl=0

I might write an evaluation of the M system later and perhaps post it on
my blog in the fall.

Edit: Pasted the wrong URL. Corrected now. Sorry. ;-P
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teleportation kills

A little colour, as could be expected, but very nice on the edge from what I
can see.

Well, it's a SOOC. I expect it to clear up significantly then I process
RAWs.
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teleportation kills

In article ,
android wrote:

In article ,
RichA wrote:

On Friday, 6 May 2016 08:34:19 UTC-4, android wrote:
I ordered the Samy 12/2.0 some time ago and it has finally arrived. I've
been critical to the QC earlier and am pleased to see that this one was
clearly better assembled than the 14/2.8, that I had to fix both the
scale, infinity and some decentering...

This time its only a tad over focusing at infinity, but that's way
better than the other way around and the scale seems about right. In my
first assessment I can't se any heavy decentering.

I've paid for all my lenses with my own money...

A SOOC (Straight out of Camera) JPG at f/2.0 can be found here over the
weekend:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zq2rov0tu66tk/i160506%237817.jpg?dl=0

I might write an evaluation of the M system later and perhaps post it on
my blog in the fall.

Edit: Pasted the wrong URL. Corrected now. Sorry. ;-P
--
teleportation kills

A little colour, as could be expected, but very nice on the edge from what
I
can see.

Well, it's a SOOC. I expect it to clear up significantly then I process
RAWs.

RAW processed for the web with some lens adjustments and stuff.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uf7erann2nn664y/i160506%237817r.jpg?dl=0
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teleportation kills

On 5/8/2016 1:35 AM, android wrote:
In article ,
android wrote:

In article ,
RichA wrote:

On Friday, 6 May 2016 08:34:19 UTC-4, android wrote:
I ordered the Samy 12/2.0 some time ago and it has finally arrived. I've
been critical to the QC earlier and am pleased to see that this one was
clearly better assembled than the 14/2.8, that I had to fix both the
scale, infinity and some decentering...

This time its only a tad over focusing at infinity, but that's way
better than the other way around and the scale seems about right. In my
first assessment I can't se any heavy decentering.

I've paid for all my lenses with my own money...

A SOOC (Straight out of Camera) JPG at f/2.0 can be found here over the
weekend:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zq2rov0tu66tk/i160506%237817.jpg?dl=0

I might write an evaluation of the M system later and perhaps post it on
my blog in the fall.

Edit: Pasted the wrong URL. Corrected now. Sorry. ;-P
--
teleportation kills

A little colour, as could be expected, but very nice on the edge from what
I
can see.

Well, it's a SOOC. I expect it to clear up significantly then I process
RAWs.

RAW processed for the web with some lens adjustments and stuff.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uf7erann2nn664y/i160506%237817r.jpg?dl=0


Looks to me like there is a reverse keystoning. It looks more pronounced
on the right.

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PeterN

On 2016-05-08 17:53:58 +0000, PeterN said:

On 5/8/2016 1:35 AM, android wrote:
In article ,
android wrote:

In article ,
RichA wrote:

On Friday, 6 May 2016 08:34:19 UTC-4, android wrote:
I ordered the Samy 12/2.0 some time ago and it has finally arrived. I've
been critical to the QC earlier and am pleased to see that this one was
clearly better assembled than the 14/2.8, that I had to fix both the
scale, infinity and some decentering...

This time its only a tad over focusing at infinity, but that's way
better than the other way around and the scale seems about right. In my
first assessment I can't se any heavy decentering.

I've paid for all my lenses with my own money...

A SOOC (Straight out of Camera) JPG at f/2.0 can be found here over the
weekend:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zq2rov0tu66tk/i160506%237817.jpg?dl=0

I might write an evaluation of the M system later and perhaps post it on
my blog in the fall.

Edit: Pasted the wrong URL. Corrected now. Sorry. ;-P
--
teleportation kills

A little colour, as could be expected, but very nice on the edge from what
I
can see.

Well, it's a SOOC. I expect it to clear up significantly then I process
RAWs.

RAW processed for the web with some lens adjustments and stuff.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uf7erann2nn664y/i160506%237817r.jpg?dl=0


Looks to me like there is a reverse keystoning. It looks more
pronounced on the right.

In that shot, who cares about 'keystoning'?

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Savageduck

On 5/8/2016 2:06 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-08 17:53:58 +0000, PeterN said:

On 5/8/2016 1:35 AM, android wrote:
In article ,
android wrote:

In article ,
RichA wrote:

On Friday, 6 May 2016 08:34:19 UTC-4, android wrote:
I ordered the Samy 12/2.0 some time ago and it has finally
arrived. I've
been critical to the QC earlier and am pleased to see that this
one was
clearly better assembled than the 14/2.8, that I had to fix both the
scale, infinity and some decentering...

This time its only a tad over focusing at infinity, but that's way
better than the other way around and the scale seems about right.
In my
first assessment I can't se any heavy decentering.

I've paid for all my lenses with my own money...

A SOOC (Straight out of Camera) JPG at f/2.0 can be found here
over the
weekend:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zq2rov0tu66tk/i160506%237817.jpg?dl=0

I might write an evaluation of the M system later and perhaps post
it on
my blog in the fall.

Edit: Pasted the wrong URL. Corrected now. Sorry. ;-P
--
teleportation kills

A little colour, as could be expected, but very nice on the edge
from what
I
can see.

Well, it's a SOOC. I expect it to clear up significantly then I process
RAWs.

RAW processed for the web with some lens adjustments and stuff.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uf7erann2nn664y/i160506%237817r.jpg?dl=0


Looks to me like there is a reverse keystoning. It looks more
pronounced on the right.

In that shot, who cares about 'keystoning'?


I was commenting on the technical aspects.


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PeterN

On 2016-05-08 18:40:48 +0000, PeterN said:

On 5/8/2016 2:06 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-08 17:53:58 +0000, PeterN said:
On 5/8/2016 1:35 AM, android wrote:
In article ,
android wrote:
In article ,
RichA wrote:
On Friday, 6 May 2016 08:34:19 UTC-4, android wrote:
I ordered the Samy 12/2.0 some time ago and it has finally
arrived. I've
been critical to the QC earlier and am pleased to see that this
one was
clearly better assembled than the 14/2.8, that I had to fix both the
scale, infinity and some decentering...

This time its only a tad over focusing at infinity, but that's way
better than the other way around and the scale seems about right.
In my
first assessment I can't se any heavy decentering.

I've paid for all my lenses with my own money...

A SOOC (Straight out of Camera) JPG at f/2.0 can be found here
over the
weekend:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zq2rov0tu66tk/i160506%237817.jpg?dl=0

I might write an evaluation of the M system later and perhaps post
it on
my blog in the fall.

Edit: Pasted the wrong URL. Corrected now. Sorry. ;-P
--
teleportation kills

A little colour, as could be expected, but very nice on the edge
from what I can see.

Well, it's a SOOC. I expect it to clear up significantly then I process
RAWs.

RAW processed for the web with some lens adjustments and stuff.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uf7erann2nn664y/i160506%237817r.jpg?dl=0


Looks to me like there is a reverse keystoning. It looks more
pronounced on the right.

In that shot, who cares about 'keystoning'?

I was commenting on the technical aspects.

Why? Once you get an image into your post processing mixmaster, all
technical aspects are thrown out the window in the name of abstract
expressionism.


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Regards,

Savageduck

On 5/8/2016 2:59 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-08 18:40:48 +0000, PeterN said:

On 5/8/2016 2:06 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-08 17:53:58 +0000, PeterN said:
On 5/8/2016 1:35 AM, android wrote:
In article ,
android wrote:
In article ,
RichA wrote:
On Friday, 6 May 2016 08:34:19 UTC-4, android wrote:
I ordered the Samy 12/2.0 some time ago and it has finally
arrived. I've
been critical to the QC earlier and am pleased to see that this
one was
clearly better assembled than the 14/2.8, that I had to fix both
the
scale, infinity and some decentering...

This time its only a tad over focusing at infinity, but that's way
better than the other way around and the scale seems about right.
In my
first assessment I can't se any heavy decentering.

I've paid for all my lenses with my own money...

A SOOC (Straight out of Camera) JPG at f/2.0 can be found here
over the
weekend:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zq2rov0tu66tk/i160506%237817.jpg?dl=0

I might write an evaluation of the M system later and perhaps post
it on
my blog in the fall.

Edit: Pasted the wrong URL. Corrected now. Sorry. ;-P
--
teleportation kills

A little colour, as could be expected, but very nice on the edge
from what I can see.

Well, it's a SOOC. I expect it to clear up significantly then I
process
RAWs.

RAW processed for the web with some lens adjustments and stuff.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uf7erann2nn664y/i160506%237817r.jpg?dl=0


Looks to me like there is a reverse keystoning. It looks more
pronounced on the right.

In that shot, who cares about 'keystoning'?

I was commenting on the technical aspects.

Why? Once you get an image into your post processing mixmaster, all
technical aspects are thrown out the window in the name of abstract
expressionism.


Is there distortion, or is there no distortion.

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PeterN

On 2016-05-09 02:37:30 +0000, PeterN said:

On 5/8/2016 2:59 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-08 18:40:48 +0000, PeterN said:
On 5/8/2016 2:06 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-08 17:53:58 +0000, PeterN said:
On 5/8/2016 1:35 AM, android wrote:
In article ,
android wrote:
In article ,
RichA wrote:
On Friday, 6 May 2016 08:34:19 UTC-4, android wrote:
I ordered the Samy 12/2.0 some time ago and it has finally
arrived. I've
been critical to the QC earlier and am pleased to see that this
one was
clearly better assembled than the 14/2.8, that I had to fix both
the
scale, infinity and some decentering...

This time its only a tad over focusing at infinity, but that's way
better than the other way around and the scale seems about right.
In my
first assessment I can't se any heavy decentering.

I've paid for all my lenses with my own money...

A SOOC (Straight out of Camera) JPG at f/2.0 can be found here
over the
weekend:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zq2rov0tu66tk/i160506%237817.jpg?dl=0

I might write an evaluation of the M system later and perhaps post
it on
my blog in the fall.

Edit: Pasted the wrong URL. Corrected now. Sorry. ;-P
--
teleportation kills

A little colour, as could be expected, but very nice on the edge
from what I can see.

Well, it's a SOOC. I expect it to clear up significantly then I
process
RAWs.

RAW processed for the web with some lens adjustments and stuff.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uf7erann2nn664y/i160506%237817r.jpg?dl=0


Looks to me like there is a reverse keystoning. It looks more
pronounced on the right.

In that shot, who cares about 'keystoning'?

I was commenting on the technical aspects.

Why? Once you get an image into your post processing mixmaster, all
technical aspects are thrown out the window in the name of abstract
expressionism.

Is there distortion, or is there no distortion.

As I said above; "In that shot, who cares about 'keystoning'?"

....and just to be fair, there is distortion in that image, but it is an
inexpensive, ultrawide 12mm for an APS-C camera. What did you expect?


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Regards,

Savageduck

PeterN Wrote in message:
On 5/8/2016 2:59 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-08 18:40:48 +0000, PeterN said:

On 5/8/2016 2:06 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-08 17:53:58 +0000, PeterN said:
On 5/8/2016 1:35 AM, android wrote:
In article ,
android wrote:
In article ,
RichA wrote:
On Friday, 6 May 2016 08:34:19 UTC-4, android wrote:
I ordered the Samy 12/2.0 some time ago and it has finally
arrived. I've
been critical to the QC earlier and am pleased to see that this
one was
clearly better assembled than the 14/2.8, that I had to fix both
the
scale, infinity and some decentering...

This time its only a tad over focusing at infinity, but that's way
better than the other way around and the scale seems about right.
In my
first assessment I can't se any heavy decentering.

I've paid for all my lenses with my own money...

A SOOC (Straight out of Camera) JPG at f/2.0 can be found here
over the
weekend:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zq2rov0tu66tk/i160506%237817.jpg?dl=0

I might write an evaluation of the M system later and perhaps post
it on
my blog in the fall.

Edit: Pasted the wrong URL. Corrected now. Sorry. ;-P
--
teleportation kills

A little colour, as could be expected, but very nice on the edge
from what I can see.

Well, it's a SOOC. I expect it to clear up significantly then I
process
RAWs.

RAW processed for the web with some lens adjustments and stuff.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uf7erann2nn664y/i160506%237817r.jpg?dl=0


Looks to me like there is a reverse keystoning. It looks more
pronounced on the right.

In that shot, who cares about 'keystoning'?

I was commenting on the technical aspects.

Why? Once you get an image into your post processing mixmaster, all
technical aspects are thrown out the window in the name of abstract
expressionism.


Is there distortion, or is there no distortion.

Sure, there's amount barell distortion in the lens. I'm in the
process of finetuning the profile. No keystoning was used in the
processed file.
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