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Henry I for one have had nothing but good experiences when dealing
with B & H, thanks for the good job to you and your co workers.

Dave Fouchey

On 07 Sep 2004 18:33:25 GMT, (BandHPhoto) wrote:

Charging your credit card before they ship the item is stealing. Plain and
simple.

No, it's not. Taking someone's property without their permission is stealing.

In the business it's called "hammering"

I have to admit I have never heard this used in this contexct before and after
a google search I coul;dn't come up with any hits.

and it's a way to generate a large float with the bank which keeps the
business from having to borrow money for operations from the bank at high
interest rates.

This is naive beyond belief. First, interest rates these days are below 1%, so
even if this was a viable option, the returnb would be pennies. Second, the
time and expense of managing an operation of this size makes it unwieldy and
unprofitable, unless you're a bank or have nothing else to do all day. That
lets most legit retailers out. Anyone who thinks a retailer who sells you a
camera on Monday and doesn't ship it until Thursday is making big $$$ Tuesday
and Wednesday is simply wrong. Plain and simple.
- --

regards,
Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video
http://www.bhphotovideo.com

Henry I for one have had nothing but good experiences when dealing
with B & H, thanks for the good job to you and your co workers.

Dave Fouchey

On 07 Sep 2004 18:33:25 GMT, (BandHPhoto) wrote:

Charging your credit card before they ship the item is stealing. Plain and
simple.

No, it's not. Taking someone's property without their permission is stealing.

In the business it's called "hammering"

I have to admit I have never heard this used in this contexct before and after
a google search I coul;dn't come up with any hits.

and it's a way to generate a large float with the bank which keeps the
business from having to borrow money for operations from the bank at high
interest rates.

This is naive beyond belief. First, interest rates these days are below 1%, so
even if this was a viable option, the returnb would be pennies. Second, the
time and expense of managing an operation of this size makes it unwieldy and
unprofitable, unless you're a bank or have nothing else to do all day. That
lets most legit retailers out. Anyone who thinks a retailer who sells you a
camera on Monday and doesn't ship it until Thursday is making big $$$ Tuesday
and Wednesday is simply wrong. Plain and simple.
- --

regards,
Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video
http://www.bhphotovideo.com

Clyde Torres wrote:


I like B&H, but I don't like this practice, and I don't like him defending
it. It is just bad business.


There are only two photo stores that I would trust with my mail
order business and B&H is first on the list. I've been to their
store, it is a first class operation. I've ordered from them and
always received fast, accurate service.

I don't like the practice in discussion either, so if I called
them and they said it wasn't in stock I wouldn't order it right
then. OTOH, if someone does order it they should be reassured
that B&H will do the right thing.

B&H once lowered the price on a meter the day after I ordered it.
I phoned and they credited my CC account the very next day.
They legally did not have to do that, but they did. I doubt very
much that you would get that at many other stores in the photo
mail order business.

B&H and Adorama for new; KEH for used. Many will agree with this
line, and that's good business.

Alan.



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Clyde Torres wrote:


I like B&H, but I don't like this practice, and I don't like him defending
it. It is just bad business.


There are only two photo stores that I would trust with my mail
order business and B&H is first on the list. I've been to their
store, it is a first class operation. I've ordered from them and
always received fast, accurate service.

I don't like the practice in discussion either, so if I called
them and they said it wasn't in stock I wouldn't order it right
then. OTOH, if someone does order it they should be reassured
that B&H will do the right thing.

B&H once lowered the price on a meter the day after I ordered it.
I phoned and they credited my CC account the very next day.
They legally did not have to do that, but they did. I doubt very
much that you would get that at many other stores in the photo
mail order business.

B&H and Adorama for new; KEH for used. Many will agree with this
line, and that's good business.

Alan.



--
-- rec.photo.equipment.35mm user resource:
-- http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.--

Alan Browne wrote:
Clyde Torres wrote:


I like B&H, but I don't like this practice, and I don't like him
defending
it. It is just bad business.

..

I don't like the practice in discussion either, so if I called
them and they said it wasn't in stock I wouldn't order it right
then. OTOH, if someone does order it they should be reassured
that B&H will do the right thing.

....
Alan.

I have to agree that I also don't like the practice and I think they
would do well to limit it to just those items that they may not regularly
stocks, would not easily re-sell and, of course, make sure the customer
fully understands.

I understand that they offer an e-mail service to alert the customer of
when an out of stock item comes in.


--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

Alan Browne wrote:
Clyde Torres wrote:


I like B&H, but I don't like this practice, and I don't like him
defending
it. It is just bad business.

..

I don't like the practice in discussion either, so if I called
them and they said it wasn't in stock I wouldn't order it right
then. OTOH, if someone does order it they should be reassured
that B&H will do the right thing.

....
Alan.

I have to agree that I also don't like the practice and I think they
would do well to limit it to just those items that they may not regularly
stocks, would not easily re-sell and, of course, make sure the customer
fully understands.

I understand that they offer an e-mail service to alert the customer of
when an out of stock item comes in.


--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

Joseph Meehan wrote:


I have to agree that I also don't like the practice and I think they
would do well to limit it to just those items that they may not regularly
stocks, would not easily re-sell and, of course, make sure the customer
fully understands.

I understand that they offer an e-mail service to alert the customer of
when an out of stock item comes in.


Whatever. This whole discussion is blown way out of proportion
wrt the perception of damage done v. the exemplary service of the
company in question.

Cheers,
Alan

--
-- rec.photo.equipment.35mm user resource:
-- http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.--

Joseph Meehan wrote:


I have to agree that I also don't like the practice and I think they
would do well to limit it to just those items that they may not regularly
stocks, would not easily re-sell and, of course, make sure the customer
fully understands.

I understand that they offer an e-mail service to alert the customer of
when an out of stock item comes in.


Whatever. This whole discussion is blown way out of proportion
wrt the perception of damage done v. the exemplary service of the
company in question.

Cheers,
Alan

--
-- rec.photo.equipment.35mm user resource:
-- http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.--

"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
Alan Browne wrote:
Clyde Torres wrote:


I like B&H, but I don't like this practice, and I don't like him
defending
it. It is just bad business.

I doubt if it's B&H's fault. That's the way Nikon distributes the
camera....In a kit with the lens. If B&H was to sell it sans lens, then they
would be left holding the bag with a bunch of extra lenses on their hands,
that they might have a hard time getting rid of.........

"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
Alan Browne wrote:
Clyde Torres wrote:


I like B&H, but I don't like this practice, and I don't like him
defending
it. It is just bad business.

I doubt if it's B&H's fault. That's the way Nikon distributes the
camera....In a kit with the lens. If B&H was to sell it sans lens, then they
would be left holding the bag with a bunch of extra lenses on their hands,
that they might have a hard time getting rid of.........