Nikon always a day late a dollar short

Dallas wrote:

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:26:43 -0400, John Llort wrote:

Again rumours are flying about a new 12mp 1.5 Crop noisy sensor DSLR poor
Nikonians are just salivating at whatever bone Nikon throws at them, even
if it is a 5K body using a noisy 1.5 crop sensor from sony. At the
olympics today I could barely walk the press line without tripping over
long white cannons. Poor Nikon. Where did they go wrong.

How do you tell the difference between the white Canons and the white
Nikkors?

When I ordered my 70-200mm f/2.8 I specifically said "I want it in BLACK!".

Are you aware that Canon lenses are white to minimize heat build-up in
bright sun? Your black Nikkor will get too hot to touch in your blazing
African summers, Dallas. Better buy a small pot of white paint! {:-)

Colin D.

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:27:41 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

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noisy 1.5 crop sensor from sony

Curious if you feel this way about all Sony sensors?
Reason I ask is the film scanner I have been thinking about has a
5,300-element tri-linear array CCD made by Sony.

http://www.microtekusa.com/as4000tf.html

This scanner isn't talked about much on the internet compared to the
Minoltas or Nikons but the few articles found are positive.

RP©

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:27:41 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

snip
noisy 1.5 crop sensor from sony

Curious if you feel this way about all Sony sensors?
Reason I ask is the film scanner I have been thinking about has a
5,300-element tri-linear array CCD made by Sony.

http://www.microtekusa.com/as4000tf.html

This scanner isn't talked about much on the internet compared to the
Minoltas or Nikons but the few articles found are positive.

RP©

Rich Pos wrote:

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:27:41 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

snip
noisy 1.5 crop sensor from sony

Curious if you feel this way about all Sony sensors?
Reason I ask is the film scanner I have been thinking about has a
5,300-element tri-linear array CCD made by Sony.

http://www.microtekusa.com/as4000tf.html

This scanner isn't talked about much on the internet compared to the
Minoltas or Nikons but the few articles found are positive.

It is my understanding that this is the same scanner that was sold as a
Polaroid. While some reviews are objective, I often like to check an
unbiased site. There is some little bits of information at:

http://www.flatbed-scanner-review.org/AgfaMicrotekflatbedscanners/Microtek_Agfa_scanners.html

I use to use several of the Polaroid film scanners, though I feel that
the Canon CanoScan line is now much better. Resolution is not much
different, but the shadow detail is better with Canon. Also, I have used
many Nikon film scanners, but always get frustrated by too frequent
breakdowns, or going out of calibration. I should mention that since I
do this for a living, the scanning gear sees very heavy use, more so
than most enthusiasts would ever use these devices.

Ciao!

Gordon Moat
A G Studio
http://www.allgstudio.com/gallery.html Updated!

Rich Pos wrote:

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:27:41 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

snip
noisy 1.5 crop sensor from sony

Curious if you feel this way about all Sony sensors?
Reason I ask is the film scanner I have been thinking about has a
5,300-element tri-linear array CCD made by Sony.

http://www.microtekusa.com/as4000tf.html

This scanner isn't talked about much on the internet compared to the
Minoltas or Nikons but the few articles found are positive.

It is my understanding that this is the same scanner that was sold as a
Polaroid. While some reviews are objective, I often like to check an
unbiased site. There is some little bits of information at:

http://www.flatbed-scanner-review.org/AgfaMicrotekflatbedscanners/Microtek_Agfa_scanners.html

I use to use several of the Polaroid film scanners, though I feel that
the Canon CanoScan line is now much better. Resolution is not much
different, but the shadow detail is better with Canon. Also, I have used
many Nikon film scanners, but always get frustrated by too frequent
breakdowns, or going out of calibration. I should mention that since I
do this for a living, the scanning gear sees very heavy use, more so
than most enthusiasts would ever use these devices.

Ciao!

Gordon Moat
A G Studio
http://www.allgstudio.com/gallery.html Updated!

"Rich Pos" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:27:41 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

snip
noisy 1.5 crop sensor from sony

Curious if you feel this way about all Sony sensors?
Reason I ask is the film scanner I have been thinking about has a
5,300-element tri-linear array CCD made by Sony.

http://www.microtekusa.com/as4000tf.html

This scanner isn't talked about much on the internet compared to the
Minoltas or Nikons but the few articles found are positive.

RP©

http://www.lookbefore.wading-in.net/Boston/5321 Pan.htm

From the Sony F-828, the image is a crop (about 255K), look at the sky
variations, "Some" but not most of the noise pixelation is from jpg.

My experience with "cheap" to mid-grade film scanners has been of
"comparable" noise from film. Scanning film noise is not the same as
digital camera noise, but it does give you some idea.

Best advise - "Try it out before you buy it" - or find out what the return
policy is if you don't like it.

Good luck, and we expect to see some samples when you get started.

Jim Kramer

"Rich Pos" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:27:41 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

snip
noisy 1.5 crop sensor from sony

Curious if you feel this way about all Sony sensors?
Reason I ask is the film scanner I have been thinking about has a
5,300-element tri-linear array CCD made by Sony.

http://www.microtekusa.com/as4000tf.html

This scanner isn't talked about much on the internet compared to the
Minoltas or Nikons but the few articles found are positive.

RP©

http://www.lookbefore.wading-in.net/Boston/5321 Pan.htm

From the Sony F-828, the image is a crop (about 255K), look at the sky
variations, "Some" but not most of the noise pixelation is from jpg.

My experience with "cheap" to mid-grade film scanners has been of
"comparable" noise from film. Scanning film noise is not the same as
digital camera noise, but it does give you some idea.

Best advise - "Try it out before you buy it" - or find out what the return
policy is if you don't like it.

Good luck, and we expect to see some samples when you get started.

Jim Kramer

"jimkramer" wrote in message
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"Rich Pos" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:27:41 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

snip
noisy 1.5 crop sensor from sony

Curious if you feel this way about all Sony sensors?
Reason I ask is the film scanner I have been thinking about has a
5,300-element tri-linear array CCD made by Sony.

http://www.microtekusa.com/as4000tf.html

This scanner isn't talked about much on the internet compared to the
Minoltas or Nikons but the few articles found are positive.

RP©

http://www.lookbefore.wading-in.net/Boston/5321 Pan.htm


Sorry that link didn't copy right

http://www.lookbefore.wading-in.net/...5321%20Pan.htm


From the Sony F-828, the image is a crop (about 255K), look at the sky
variations, "Some" but not most of the noise pixelation is from jpg.

My experience with "cheap" to mid-grade film scanners has been of
"comparable" noise from film. Scanning film noise is not the same as
digital camera noise, but it does give you some idea.

Best advise - "Try it out before you buy it" - or find out what the return
policy is if you don't like it.

Good luck, and we expect to see some samples when you get started.

Jim Kramer

"jimkramer" wrote in message
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"Rich Pos" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:27:41 +1200, Colin D
wrote:

snip
noisy 1.5 crop sensor from sony

Curious if you feel this way about all Sony sensors?
Reason I ask is the film scanner I have been thinking about has a
5,300-element tri-linear array CCD made by Sony.

http://www.microtekusa.com/as4000tf.html

This scanner isn't talked about much on the internet compared to the
Minoltas or Nikons but the few articles found are positive.

RP©

http://www.lookbefore.wading-in.net/Boston/5321 Pan.htm


Sorry that link didn't copy right

http://www.lookbefore.wading-in.net/...5321%20Pan.htm


From the Sony F-828, the image is a crop (about 255K), look at the sky
variations, "Some" but not most of the noise pixelation is from jpg.

My experience with "cheap" to mid-grade film scanners has been of
"comparable" noise from film. Scanning film noise is not the same as
digital camera noise, but it does give you some idea.

Best advise - "Try it out before you buy it" - or find out what the return
policy is if you don't like it.

Good luck, and we expect to see some samples when you get started.

Jim Kramer

In article pan.2004.08.25.18.59.28.766000@southafrican,
says...
How do you tell the difference between the white Canons and the white
Nikkors?

Simple, nobody buys the white Nikkors.
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