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Old September 9th 04, 05:21 PM
S Lee
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Al Denelsbeck choreographed a chorus line of high-kicking electrons to
spell out:

Okay, I was, for some indeterminate reason, poking around in the
photo department of Wal-Mart yesterday, and for those unfamiliar with
this line of stores, they are a do-it-all-halfass chain of department
stores specializing in snack foods...


Well, it's good to see that you and at least a small portion of
Florida have made it through the most recent hurricane OK...

Best question I heard recently involved whether a Pentax 90WR could
be used as a manual SLR.

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Old September 9th 04, 07:51 PM
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Good points, Jeremy, but where do you get most of your film now?


At my warehouse club. But these places cater to a mass market. When film
camera use drops below some threshold of critical mass, they won't carry it
anymore.

Try to find a roll of Kodachrome at your local drug store, and you'll
immediately understand.

Just about everyone I know has gotten a digital camera, and has stopped
using film. For these amateurs, digital imaging meets their needs. And
now, with easy editing programs such as Kodak EasyShare software, they can
do minor tweaks to color balance, brightness and contrast, and end up with
images that are better than those that came back from their old drugstore
film processors.

Even the consumers that do not do any tweaking are reaping the benefits of
processors such as Kodak's Ofoto, which offers "Perfect Touch" printing,
where the processor applies automatic enhancements to improve contrast and
raise midtones that are too dark. I believe that they can even recognize
and correct red-eye now.

Kodak is offering this same technology in their film processing and
printing. The consumer is getting a better color print back than he ever
did before. Granted, it is not up to professional standards, but it
certainly looks good to the guy that used to shoot an Instamatic.

Like it or not, the demographics are shifting away from film for the
ordinary consumer in America.


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Old September 9th 04, 07:51 PM
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"jimkramer" wrote in message
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Good points, Jeremy, but where do you get most of your film now?


At my warehouse club. But these places cater to a mass market. When film
camera use drops below some threshold of critical mass, they won't carry it
anymore.

Try to find a roll of Kodachrome at your local drug store, and you'll
immediately understand.

Just about everyone I know has gotten a digital camera, and has stopped
using film. For these amateurs, digital imaging meets their needs. And
now, with easy editing programs such as Kodak EasyShare software, they can
do minor tweaks to color balance, brightness and contrast, and end up with
images that are better than those that came back from their old drugstore
film processors.

Even the consumers that do not do any tweaking are reaping the benefits of
processors such as Kodak's Ofoto, which offers "Perfect Touch" printing,
where the processor applies automatic enhancements to improve contrast and
raise midtones that are too dark. I believe that they can even recognize
and correct red-eye now.

Kodak is offering this same technology in their film processing and
printing. The consumer is getting a better color print back than he ever
did before. Granted, it is not up to professional standards, but it
certainly looks good to the guy that used to shoot an Instamatic.

Like it or not, the demographics are shifting away from film for the
ordinary consumer in America.


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Old September 9th 04, 09:26 PM
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"Al Denelsbeck" wrote in message
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Okay, I was, for some indeterminate reason, poking around in the photo
department of Wal-Mart yesterday, and for those unfamiliar with this line

of
stores, they are a do-it-all-halfass chain of department stores

specializing
in snack foods...

So I was chatting with the woman staffing the photo department about

the
wonderful range of digital cameras they offer there, most of which I would
have trouble finding in the same pocket as my keys. What came next stunned
me though, as I was informed that some digitals have now advanced beyond
35mm cameras - they go up to 38mm!


Forgive my cynical laughter- but you ain't heard nothing yet.

Neither have I- but, as Jacobs Photographic have offered me a full-time
contract, I will have very soon.

So, some good Joe Public stories- how about the woman who, when offered a
camera for £249 which she had been previously offered for £299, demanded she
be charged £299?

Or the woman whose face fell when told her newly acquired Nicomatic SL,NR
(Sh***y lens, no refund) camera, was worth less than the roll of film she
bought and would prbably have been overpriced in a Poundstretcher. She
didn't disclose the sum paid, but she hardly moved for over a minute...

Or the young couple who wanted a gift for a photography-enthusiast relative,
asked for "the best, most professional film camera we stocked", were
confronted with price lists and specifications, and eventually left with a
Canon Ixus III APS p'n's (with a free roll of Konica-cast-off Jacobs film)?

Or the gentlemen who asked for his four 35mm films be developed, before
allowing all beautifully fogged, unfurled rolls of emulsion out of the
translucent plastic containers onto the counter? And the look of horror on
his face when he realised his photos of the wedding were "probably not going
to come out"?

Hold on, i've got tons more...

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Old September 9th 04, 09:26 PM
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"Al Denelsbeck" wrote in message
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Okay, I was, for some indeterminate reason, poking around in the photo
department of Wal-Mart yesterday, and for those unfamiliar with this line

of
stores, they are a do-it-all-halfass chain of department stores

specializing
in snack foods...

So I was chatting with the woman staffing the photo department about

the
wonderful range of digital cameras they offer there, most of which I would
have trouble finding in the same pocket as my keys. What came next stunned
me though, as I was informed that some digitals have now advanced beyond
35mm cameras - they go up to 38mm!


Forgive my cynical laughter- but you ain't heard nothing yet.

Neither have I- but, as Jacobs Photographic have offered me a full-time
contract, I will have very soon.

So, some good Joe Public stories- how about the woman who, when offered a
camera for £249 which she had been previously offered for £299, demanded she
be charged £299?

Or the woman whose face fell when told her newly acquired Nicomatic SL,NR
(Sh***y lens, no refund) camera, was worth less than the roll of film she
bought and would prbably have been overpriced in a Poundstretcher. She
didn't disclose the sum paid, but she hardly moved for over a minute...

Or the young couple who wanted a gift for a photography-enthusiast relative,
asked for "the best, most professional film camera we stocked", were
confronted with price lists and specifications, and eventually left with a
Canon Ixus III APS p'n's (with a free roll of Konica-cast-off Jacobs film)?

Or the gentlemen who asked for his four 35mm films be developed, before
allowing all beautifully fogged, unfurled rolls of emulsion out of the
translucent plastic containers onto the counter? And the look of horror on
his face when he realised his photos of the wedding were "probably not going
to come out"?

Hold on, i've got tons more...

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Martin Francis http://www.sixbysix.co.uk
"Go not to Usenet for counsel, for it will say both no, and yes, and
no, and yes...."


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Old September 9th 04, 09:49 PM
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In article ,
"Al Denelsbeck" writes:

So I was chatting with the woman staffing the photo department about the
wonderful range of digital cameras they offer there, most of which I would
have trouble finding in the same pocket as my keys. What came next stunned
me though, as I was informed that some digitals have now advanced beyond
35mm cameras - they go up to 38mm!


38mm, does this count as moderate format?

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Old September 9th 04, 09:49 PM
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In article ,
"Al Denelsbeck" writes:

So I was chatting with the woman staffing the photo department about the
wonderful range of digital cameras they offer there, most of which I would
have trouble finding in the same pocket as my keys. What came next stunned
me though, as I was informed that some digitals have now advanced beyond
35mm cameras - they go up to 38mm!


38mm, does this count as moderate format?

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Old September 9th 04, 10:12 PM
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Al Denelsbeck wrote:

So I was chatting with the woman staffing the photo department about the
wonderful range of digital cameras they offer there, most of which I would
have trouble finding in the same pocket as my keys. What came next stunned
me though, as I was informed that some digitals have now advanced beyond
35mm cameras - they go up to 38mm!


She's behind already... as of the close of markets today, they
crested the 40mm mark that poeple have been expecting for some
time... profit taking may briefly bring it under 40mm
temporarilly, but I think after a couple more weeks there will be
no looking back.

P.S. Alan, this is NOT my entry for SI-FI, since I think you said those had
to be made up...


Every good story can be wrapped around a kernel of real life.

Cheers,
Alan.



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Old September 9th 04, 10:14 PM
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Jim Phelps wrote:


Hey, Wrong forum. This is the 35mm group, not the 38mm group...


You're right! Let's create a new newsgroup NOW!

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Old September 9th 04, 10:14 PM
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Jim Phelps wrote:


Hey, Wrong forum. This is the 35mm group, not the 38mm group...


You're right! Let's create a new newsgroup NOW!

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