Nikon D2X announced - 12.4 million pixels, DX size CMOS sensor

They could however offer an adapter so that a larger mounted
lens worked back to the F Mount.



In article ,
Alan Browne wrote:

Dallas wrote:

Don't worry ... this has been Nikon's one point of long standing honor
(with its many exceptions...). If they changed mounts now they would have
a stampede heading for Canon and they know it.


What if Nikon kept the F mount but introduced a new, totally different but
concurrently manufactured mount for professional use only?

Bad strategy unless you really go on an end run like Olympus and
the 4/3" sensor and the (filmless) E-1 line.

If Nikon introduced a 100% F-incompatible, pro-destined line, it
would have a limited market. Pros would need new bodies and
lenses. At that point the pros would sit back and say, 'well,
while I'm changing, what else is there ...' That stampeding
noise would be them running to Canon. Most certainly since,
according to a few pj's I've talked to around here, Canon treat
them well, offer to sell them eqt. at a discount (whether for pro
or personal need) ... whereas Nikon really don't give a ****
about the pj's ... they appear to take for granted that they have
the market in hand ... the sidelines at many sporting events seem
to indicate that Nikon have lost it with the pro sports pj's.

Nikon have frittered away their strong position by resting on
their laurels, that's all their is to it.

Cheers,
Alan

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

They could however offer an adapter so that a larger mounted
lens worked back to the F Mount.



In article ,
Alan Browne wrote:

Dallas wrote:

Don't worry ... this has been Nikon's one point of long standing honor
(with its many exceptions...). If they changed mounts now they would have
a stampede heading for Canon and they know it.


What if Nikon kept the F mount but introduced a new, totally different but
concurrently manufactured mount for professional use only?

Bad strategy unless you really go on an end run like Olympus and
the 4/3" sensor and the (filmless) E-1 line.

If Nikon introduced a 100% F-incompatible, pro-destined line, it
would have a limited market. Pros would need new bodies and
lenses. At that point the pros would sit back and say, 'well,
while I'm changing, what else is there ...' That stampeding
noise would be them running to Canon. Most certainly since,
according to a few pj's I've talked to around here, Canon treat
them well, offer to sell them eqt. at a discount (whether for pro
or personal need) ... whereas Nikon really don't give a ****
about the pj's ... they appear to take for granted that they have
the market in hand ... the sidelines at many sporting events seem
to indicate that Nikon have lost it with the pro sports pj's.

Nikon have frittered away their strong position by resting on
their laurels, that's all their is to it.

Cheers,
Alan

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Mojtaba wrote:

Long time no see! Welcome back.


Thanks ... too busy to spend much time online!

;-)

Mojtaba wrote:

Long time no see! Welcome back.


Thanks ... too busy to spend much time online!

;-)

"Dallas" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:37:23 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

William Graham wrote:


New or not, it's still music to my ears.....I am always afraid that
Nikon will discontinue the F mount, and obsolete all my old
glass..........

Don't worry ... this has been Nikon's one point of long standing honor
(with its many exceptions...). If they changed mounts now they would
have
a stampede heading for Canon and they know it.

What if Nikon kept the F mount but introduced a new, totally different but
concurrently manufactured mount for professional use only?


I would still be unhappy about that, because it would mean that all the
lenses they designed from that point on, would only fit their new mount, and
therefore be unavailable to me. This is already partially the case with some
of the new lenses they make for digital use only....They will/might vignette
when used with the 35 mm format cameras. As a matter of fact, if I didn't
have my F5, but only had an older body, I would be ****ed at them for
building the "G" type lenses, that won't work with the older bodies, (and
with some newer bodies, like the FM3a) If their new F6 doesn't work with the
old glass, then I won't even consider buying one. (for example) One of the
great pleasures I get from photography is finding old Nikkors at second hand
stores, flea markets, and garage sales. When I do find one of these, the one
thing I know about it is that it will fit on my camera, and I will be able
to take pictures with it.......

"Dallas" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:37:23 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

William Graham wrote:


New or not, it's still music to my ears.....I am always afraid that
Nikon will discontinue the F mount, and obsolete all my old
glass..........

Don't worry ... this has been Nikon's one point of long standing honor
(with its many exceptions...). If they changed mounts now they would
have
a stampede heading for Canon and they know it.

What if Nikon kept the F mount but introduced a new, totally different but
concurrently manufactured mount for professional use only?


I would still be unhappy about that, because it would mean that all the
lenses they designed from that point on, would only fit their new mount, and
therefore be unavailable to me. This is already partially the case with some
of the new lenses they make for digital use only....They will/might vignette
when used with the 35 mm format cameras. As a matter of fact, if I didn't
have my F5, but only had an older body, I would be ****ed at them for
building the "G" type lenses, that won't work with the older bodies, (and
with some newer bodies, like the FM3a) If their new F6 doesn't work with the
old glass, then I won't even consider buying one. (for example) One of the
great pleasures I get from photography is finding old Nikkors at second hand
stores, flea markets, and garage sales. When I do find one of these, the one
thing I know about it is that it will fit on my camera, and I will be able
to take pictures with it.......

As I stated they could make an adapter for the new lenses
back to the F mount.

In article PBI2d.317859$8_6.214482@attbi_s04,
"William Graham" wrote:

I would still be unhappy about that, because it would mean that all the
lenses they designed from that point on, would only fit their new mount, and
therefore be unavailable to me. This is already partially the case with some
of the new lenses they make for digital use only....They will/might vignette
when used with the 35 mm format cameras. As a matter of fact, if I didn't
have my F5, but only had an older body, I would be ****ed at them for
building the "G" type lenses, that won't work with the older bodies, (and
with some newer bodies, like the FM3a) If their new F6 doesn't work with the
old glass, then I won't even consider buying one. (for example) One of the
great pleasures I get from photography is finding old Nikkors at second hand
stores, flea markets, and garage sales. When I do find one of these, the one
thing I know about it is that it will fit on my camera, and I will be able
to take pictures with it.......

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

As I stated they could make an adapter for the new lenses
back to the F mount.

In article PBI2d.317859$8_6.214482@attbi_s04,
"William Graham" wrote:

I would still be unhappy about that, because it would mean that all the
lenses they designed from that point on, would only fit their new mount, and
therefore be unavailable to me. This is already partially the case with some
of the new lenses they make for digital use only....They will/might vignette
when used with the 35 mm format cameras. As a matter of fact, if I didn't
have my F5, but only had an older body, I would be ****ed at them for
building the "G" type lenses, that won't work with the older bodies, (and
with some newer bodies, like the FM3a) If their new F6 doesn't work with the
old glass, then I won't even consider buying one. (for example) One of the
great pleasures I get from photography is finding old Nikkors at second hand
stores, flea markets, and garage sales. When I do find one of these, the one
thing I know about it is that it will fit on my camera, and I will be able
to take pictures with it.......

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

"Gregory Blank" wrote in message
...
As I stated they could make an adapter for the new lenses
back to the F mount.

Yes.....They might be able to do that with the "G: type lenses, too.....An
adapter that enabled one to twist a ring that adjusted the aperture on the
lens by the same mechanism that the new camera bodies use....But,
unfortunately, it would have to contain corrective glass to extend the
lens-to-film plane distance also......

"Gregory Blank" wrote in message
...
As I stated they could make an adapter for the new lenses
back to the F mount.

Yes.....They might be able to do that with the "G: type lenses, too.....An
adapter that enabled one to twist a ring that adjusted the aperture on the
lens by the same mechanism that the new camera bodies use....But,
unfortunately, it would have to contain corrective glass to extend the
lens-to-film plane distance also......