iPad, G2, ALL touch screens are disgusting, filthy products

On Sat, 29 May 2010 19:33:46 -0500, Die Wahrheit wrote:

On Sat, 29 May 2010 17:01:31 -0700, Mike Russell
wrote:

On Sun, 30 May 2010 06:20:52 +0900, David J. Littleboy wrote:

It's about usability, not neuroses. That's Rich/RichA's problem; the rest of
us are taking photos.

If your really believe he has problems, then you may be causing him harm
just to get a reaction and continue what appears to be a sport. If you are
using mental illness to poke fun at him, without thinking that he is really
mentally ill, then you may be indirectly hurting individuals who may read
this exchange now or at a later time, who are afflicted.

Is it worth it for just a few snappy replies to someone who you find
irritating? IMHO, no.

For people with emotional or mental disorders: forums, newsgroups, chat
rooms, and other forms of online text communications are possibly *the*
worst place for them to get their needs met.

This is true enough, however my comments are directed at people who do
*not* suffer from a mental disorder. Can't we consider the effects that
our comments will have on others, and take responsibility for what we do?

Due to the very nature of
being able to read anything they want to or project into others' written
words, they only end up compounding their psychoses and skewed emotional
states. They are purposely choosing to make themselves worse, never better.

All true - if only because people with similar disorders may have at one
another like cats and dogs.

My suggestion, and it's only that, is to think twice before making fun of
someone, using a mental illness as the barb. You would not make fun of
someone with a physical disease, and a mental disease is no different.

I apologize for being repetitious, and I will stop responding to this
thread, unless I think of something new to say, which is unlikely.
--
Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com

On Sat, 29 May 2010 21:15:42 -0700, Mike Russell
wrote:

You would not make fun of
someone with a physical disease, and a mental disease is no different.

That depend on the situation. A quadriplegic, for example, flopping around
on the dance-floor loudly proclaiming he's going to be a famous ballroom
dancer one day with all his limitations just as they are, or worse,
eventually gets pretty funny. I believe it's the combination of mental and
physical illness and nobody caring enough to stop him from making a fool of
himself, egging him on even, which would lead to it being nothing but
humor. There's nothing left to do but laugh at all of them involved.

A similar situation would be that of a blind photographer.

On Sat, 29 May 2010 22:33:12 -0700 (PDT), Twibil wrote:

Mike, I majored in psychology and worked in a mental hospital for two
years after college. Don't try to teach your grandfather to chew
cheese.

LOL. We say suck eggs on this side of the pond. So how long would you
have continued to hold your job if your supervisor learned that you used
your mental health training to torment the inmates? Not very long. By
the same token, I suggest, neither should you torment the inmates of this
newsgroup.
--
Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com

In rec.photo.digital Peter wrote:
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On 29 May 2010 10:52:30 GMT, Chris Malcolm wrote:

I don't understand why anyone should have a problem with touchscreen
hygiene who doesn't have to disinfect money before touching it.

They actually may. OCDC is a fairly common problem affecting thousands of
people, and has only been diagnosed in the last several decades. The cost
of making fun of these people can be very high, in human terms, and IMHO
not worth the couple of laughs we may get.

To a certain extent all of us have our quirks. I have known several of these
people and see their life as sad, not funny. I suspect when we make fun of
them we are expressing fear that we may have the problem, too. My
psychologist friends tell me that our laughter is a form of denial.

Many people are drawn to the study of psychology because they find it
as difficult to understand themselves as other people. They may if
they do their homework end up knowing a lot of interesting and useful
psychological research. But their opinions should be treated with
polite scepticism.

--
Chris Malcolm

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In rec.photo.digital Peter wrote:
"Mike Russell" wrote in message
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On 29 May 2010 10:52:30 GMT, Chris Malcolm wrote:

I don't understand why anyone should have a problem with touchscreen
hygiene who doesn't have to disinfect money before touching it.

They actually may. OCDC is a fairly common problem affecting thousands
of
people, and has only been diagnosed in the last several decades. The
cost
of making fun of these people can be very high, in human terms, and IMHO
not worth the couple of laughs we may get.

To a certain extent all of us have our quirks. I have known several of
these
people and see their life as sad, not funny. I suspect when we make fun
of
them we are expressing fear that we may have the problem, too. My
psychologist friends tell me that our laughter is a form of denial.

Many people are drawn to the study of psychology because they find it
as difficult to understand themselves as other people. They may if
they do their homework end up knowing a lot of interesting and useful
psychological research. But their opinions should be treated with
polite scepticism.


Even if it a conclusion drawn from meaningful, peer reviewed research?
Yes we should be skeptical about the research and carefully look to see if
the research supports the conclusion.


--
Peter

On Sat, 29 May 2010 22:19:03 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
wrote:

On May 29, 5:33*pm, Die Wahrheit
wrote:


For people with emotional or mental disorders: forums, newsgroups, chat
rooms, and other forms of online text communications are possibly *the*
worst place for them to get their needs met. Due to the very nature of
being able to read anything they want to or project into others' written
words, they only end up compounding their psychoses and skewed emotional
states.

This is mostly true and fairly insightful.

They are purposely choosing to make themselves worse, never better.

This is just plain wrong: psychotics by their very nature almost never
think that there's anything really wrong with themselves, so from
their viewpoint they're not choosing to make themselves "worse".

I guess that's what you get for reading into words. It was not written from
their perspective, it was written from an observer's POV. I find it
interesting, from whose POV that you chose to read it.