Foxconn, Apple's factory of death

On 1/06/2010 1:33 a.m., RichA wrote:
Why are the workers offing themselves?

Just worth noting, especially if people who don't own Apple products
make sanctimonious claims:

"Among other things, Foxconn produces the Mac mini, the iPod, the iPad,
and the iPhone for Apple Inc.; Intel-branded motherboards for Intel
Corp.; various orders for American computer manufacturers Dell and
Hewlett-Packard; motherboards for UK computer manufacturer Zoostorm; the
PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 for Sony; the Wii for Nintendo; the Xbox
360 for Microsoft, cell phones for Motorola, the Amazon Kindle, and
Cisco equipment."

Also worth noting that with 400,000 employees, and the background level
for suicide in China of 12-15 per 100,000 per annum, 10 suicides over a
5 month period is not indicative of anything statistically significant
at all.

It's a great headline story though - especially when there's a link to
Apple - the largest (capital value - not revenue) tech company in the
world.

Me wrote in :

On 1/06/2010 1:33 a.m., RichA wrote:
Why are the workers offing themselves?

Just worth noting, especially if people who don't own Apple products
make sanctimonious claims:

"Among other things, Foxconn produces the Mac mini, the iPod, the iPad,
and the iPhone for Apple Inc.; Intel-branded motherboards for Intel
Corp.; various orders for American computer manufacturers Dell and
Hewlett-Packard; motherboards for UK computer manufacturer Zoostorm;
the
PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 for Sony; the Wii for Nintendo; the
Xbox
360 for Microsoft, cell phones for Motorola, the Amazon Kindle, and
Cisco equipment."

Also worth noting that with 400,000 employees, and the background
level
for suicide in China of 12-15 per 100,000 per annum, 10 suicides over a
5 month period is not indicative of anything statistically significant
at all.

It's a great headline story though - especially when there's a link to
Apple - the largest (capital value - not revenue) tech company in the
world.


Yeah, I remember worthless, paper companies in the 1990's worth more in
the stock market than GE because had high-tech names and that impressed
morons. F--- Apple.

On 1/06/2010 12:48 p.m., Rich wrote:
wrote in :

On 1/06/2010 1:33 a.m., RichA wrote:
Why are the workers offing themselves?

Just worth noting, especially if people who don't own Apple products
make sanctimonious claims:

"Among other things, Foxconn produces the Mac mini, the iPod, the iPad,
and the iPhone for Apple Inc.; Intel-branded motherboards for Intel
Corp.; various orders for American computer manufacturers Dell and
Hewlett-Packard; motherboards for UK computer manufacturer Zoostorm;
the
PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 for Sony; the Wii for Nintendo; the
Xbox
360 for Microsoft, cell phones for Motorola, the Amazon Kindle, and
Cisco equipment."

Also worth noting that with400,000 employees, and the background
level
for suicide in China of 12-15 per 100,000 per annum, 10 suicides over a
5 month period is not indicative of anything statistically significant
at all.

It's a great headline story though - especially when there's a link to
Apple - the largest (capital value - not revenue) tech company in the
world.


Yeah, I remember worthless, paper companies in the 1990's worth more in
the stock market than GE because had high-tech names and that impressed
morons. F--- Apple.

You can't seriously compare Apple, with revenue of ~$40 billion, income
(EBIT) of $11 billion, and profit of ~$8 billion with tech-bubble
startups of the late '90s?

Me wrote:
On 1/06/2010 12:48 p.m., Rich wrote:

Yeah, I remember worthless, paper companies in the 1990's worth more in
the stock market than GE because had high-tech names and that impressed
morons. F--- Apple.

You can't seriously compare Apple, with revenue of ~$40 billion, income
(EBIT) of $11 billion, and profit of ~$8 billion with tech-bubble
startups of the late '90s?

Rich can use his hatred of Apple, compact cameras, plastic and people
unlike him ethnically to make any "comparison" you can think of.

Maybe he shorted the stock at $40....

--
john mcwilliams

On 1/06/2010 4:48 p.m., John McWilliams wrote:
Me wrote:
On 1/06/2010 12:48 p.m., Rich wrote:

Yeah, I remember worthless, paper companies in the 1990's worth more in
the stock market than GE because had high-tech names and that impressed
morons. F--- Apple.

You can't seriously compare Apple, with revenue of ~$40 billion,
income (EBIT) of $11 billion, and profit of ~$8 billion with
tech-bubble startups of the late '90s?

Rich can use his hatred of Apple, compact cameras, plastic and people
unlike him ethnically to make any "comparison" you can think of.

Maybe he shorted the stock at $40....

He might just be an unhappy malcontent needing Prozac...
Oh wait, Prozac only "works" (self-reported) in about 70% of cases.
What he /really/ needs is a new iPhone:
http://www.salon.com/life/feature/20...nts/index.html
"72 percent said that their iPhone made them happier."
Better than Prozac.

Me wrote in :

On 1/06/2010 4:48 p.m., John McWilliams wrote:
Me wrote:
On 1/06/2010 12:48 p.m., Rich wrote:

Yeah, I remember worthless, paper companies in the 1990's worth
more in the stock market than GE because had high-tech names and
that impressed morons. F--- Apple.

You can't seriously compare Apple, with revenue of ~$40 billion,
income (EBIT) of $11 billion, and profit of ~$8 billion with
tech-bubble startups of the late '90s?

Rich can use his hatred of Apple, compact cameras, plastic and people
unlike him ethnically to make any "comparison" you can think of.

Maybe he shorted the stock at $40....

He might just be an unhappy malcontent needing Prozac...
Oh wait, Prozac only "works" (self-reported) in about 70% of cases.
What he /really/ needs is a new iPhone:
http://www.salon.com/life/feature/20...ge_students/in
dex.html "72 percent said that their iPhone made them happier."
Better than Prozac.


72% have IQ's under 95...

On 2010-06-01 18:39:41 -0700, Rich said:
72% have IQ's under 95...

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:03:00 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
...and you know that little fact, how?

It's part of the definition of IQ.
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/IQBasics.aspx
--
Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com

Twibil wrote:
On Jun 1, 6:39?pm, Rich wrote:


dex.html "72 percent said that their iPhone made them happier."
Better than Prozac.

72% have IQ's under 95...

Yup.

That can't be right. IQ scores ideally have a mean of 100 and
a standard deviation of 15. So the score that 72% of people
score less than should be a little more than one sigma above 100.

Peter.

Savageduck wrote:
On 2010-06-01 19:18:22 -0700, Mike Russell
said:


On 2010-06-01 18:39:41 -0700, Rich said:
72% have IQ's under 95...

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:03:00 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
...and you know that little fact, how?

It's part of the definition of IQ.
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/IQBasics.aspx

Mike,
I would have thought you would actually have read and understood what
you posted.
What Rich stated had nothing to do with the "definition of IQ".

By definition the mean IQ of any given test population is 100. Therefore
as per your own source average IQ falls in the 90-110 range.
Also the scoring for any test population group is assumed to be evenly
distributed, simply meaning there should be as many scoring above 100 as
below.

Also from your source;
"Thus the deviation IQ replaced the ratio IQ. It compares people of the
same age or age category and assumes that IQ is normally distributed,
that the average (mean) is 100 and that the standard deviation is
something like 15 (IQ tests sometimes differ in their standard
deviations).

What is a standard deviation (SD)? Simply put, the standard deviation
is a measure of the spread of the sample from the mean. As a rule of
thumb, about 2/3 of a sample is within 1 standard deviation from the
mean. About 95% of the sample will be within 2 standard deviations from
the mean (3).

With the standard deviation and a mean, you can calculate percentiles.
Percentiles tell you the percent of people that have a score equal to or
lower than a certain score."

Given that you are not going to find 72% of any test population scoring
below 95.

Don't they grade on the curve?? And how come all the children in Lake
Wobegone are above average??

Flatulent minds wanna know.....

--
john mcwilliams

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:02:13 -0700, Savageduck wrote:

Mike,
I would have thought you would actually have read and understood what
you posted.

sorry - thought you had an actual question, and not a snare.

All the bets
--
Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com