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A free online image host service that lets me organize?
In article , Mayayana
wrote: | Well I'm not the best in organising such things but would your aunt be in the people folder if the picture was taken say at a 1999 new years eve party or a uncles birthday paty, Bar Mitzvah or funeral. ? | | I found the best method is to dump everything into an untitled folder that way you know where any and everything is ;-) | It sounds like you're the target audience for things like Picassa. picassa has been replaced by the vastly more capable google photos. For those of us who like to organize and keep track of things ourselves, a folder is not likely to be named "People". Maybe something like \Personal\Family\Party99. Or maybe just \Party99 if you don't go to many parties. that's very restrictive and inflexible. what if you go to a party that isn't family? what if it's a mix? what if you want to find photos of a particular person who may have been at that party as well as at non-parties? Everyone is likely to be different. If you use Picassa or other image tracking software then you've basically handed the job of organizing over to your secretary. I guess that will work for you.... as long as your secretary is not out sick. computers don't call in sick, nor do they complain about the tasks they do. they don't take long lunches and have no problem working overnight. It's a similar situation with people who don't like computers. They have no idea where their files are. When asked they say, "Word knows where they are." That works fine, until their hard disk crashes and they discover there's no backup. what does that have to do with anything? if the hard disk crashes and there's no backup, then it doesn't matter if they know which folder a particular file is in, does it? I actually know a professional photographer who had her Mac crash awhile back. She had all of her work on there with no backup! There was no choice but to pay for retrieval. (I don't know what system she was using to organize here work.) then she's an idiot. hopefully she learned her lesson. Of course, people using Picassa can still do backup, but with that approach you've inserted a superfluous level of abstraction between yourself and your photos, making it less likely and more difficult for backup to happen. nonsense. one has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the other. |
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A free online image host service that lets me organize?
"nospam" wrote
| picassa has been replaced by the vastly more capable google photos. | Imagine my excitement. Spyware and file organization in one handy package. What'll they think of next?! | Of course, people using Picassa can still do | backup, but with that approach you've inserted | a superfluous level of abstraction between | yourself and your photos, making it less likely | and more difficult for backup to happen. | | nonsense. one has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the other. I can see why you wouldn't see the connection. You probably also use automated software to handle your backups. That might work out OK. Personally I prefer to understand and manage the process. I know where my files are and I know where my backup is. You know where the cute button is marked, "Back Up Now!". As long as your backup service works and you don't mind other people holding your files, your method should be OK. But it's hardly defensible as being superior to knowing what you're doing. |
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A free online image host service that lets me organize?
In article , Mayayana
wrote: | picassa has been replaced by the vastly more capable google photos. | Imagine my excitement. Spyware and file organization in one handy package. What'll they think of next?! then use apple photos, which does the scene recognition entirely locally. nothing is uploaded. the downside of doing it locally is that google has vastly more processing power to analyze images than any personal computer does, and that the photos are accessible from any device at any time. | Of course, people using Picassa can still do | backup, but with that approach you've inserted | a superfluous level of abstraction between | yourself and your photos, making it less likely | and more difficult for backup to happen. | | nonsense. one has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the other. I can see why you wouldn't see the connection. the reason is because there is none. You probably also use automated software to handle your backups. That might work out OK. this isn't about me. nevertheless, i use several methods, each of which covers different failure modes. Personally I prefer to understand and manage the process. I know where my files are and I know where my backup is. You know where the cute button is marked, "Back Up Now!". what button? backups should be automatic with no effort by the user. if **** happens, restore the drive and after a short time, everything is how it was prior to the failure, minus anything since the last snapshot. alternately, one can poke around and restore individual items, should only one be corrupted. having a simple and automated way to do something in no way prevents doing something in other ways. As long as your backup service works and you don't mind other people holding your files, your method should be OK. where did you get the ****ed up idea other people hold files? they *can* be, but that's not a requirement. But it's hardly defensible as being superior to knowing what you're doing. you clearly don't. |
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A free online image host service that lets me organize?
On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 11:36:58 AM UTC+1, Ant wrote:
Hello. I have hundreds of image files all over in many of their own deep (folder/directorie)s since I specifically organized them on my drives. I tried Flickr and Google Photos, but they do not organize them in multiple folders deep with albums. Also, uploading from many drive's locations is a pain and tedious. It would be nice to upload all at once in their original locations to the server as well. Does anyone know if there is a free online image host service can meet my requirements? Thank you in advance. -- Quote of the Week: "What, like I had to live with all those ants? Do you know what I did to those ants? HoooHooo! No more ants!" --unknown Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- ( ) ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. Why not just upload them to flickr and use album names that reflect the full path? For instance, if you have a folder 'flowers' with a subfolder roses, you could simply store those images in an album named flowers-roses on flickr. In this fashion you would still have a fairly organized collection of albums, since they are stored alphabetically and all the subfolders of a particular folder would be listed together in the overview of albums on flicker. You'd need to have a ridiculous amount of subfolders to run into problems with this method and with 1 tb of free space at flickr you can still store a huge number of pictures. |
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A free online image host service that lets me organize?
sobriquet wrote:
On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 11:36:58 AM UTC+1, Ant wrote: Hello. I have hundreds of image files all over in many of their own deep (folder/directorie)s since I specifically organized them on my drives. I tried Flickr and Google Photos, but they do not organize them in multiple folders deep with albums. Also, uploading from many drive's locations is a pain and tedious. It would be nice to upload all at once in their original locations to the server as well. Does anyone know if there is a free online image host service can meet my requirements? Thank you in advance. Why not just upload them to flickr and use album names that reflect the full path? For instance, if you have a folder 'flowers' with a subfolder roses, you could simply store those images in an album named flowers-roses on flickr. In this fashion you would still have a fairly organized collection of albums, since they are stored alphabetically and all the subfolders of a particular folder would be listed together in the overview of albums on flicker. You'd need to have a ridiculous amount of subfolders to run into problems with this method and with 1 tb of free space at flickr you can still store a huge number of pictures. That is the problem. I have ridiculous amount of subfolders and files. :/ -- Quote of the Week: "What, like I had to live with all those ants? Do you know what I did to those ants? HoooHooo! No more ants!" --unknown Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- ( ) ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. |
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A free online image host service that lets me organize?
In article , Ant
wrote: That is the problem. I have ridiculous amount of subfolders and files. :/ which is why you should fix that. |
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A free online image host service that lets me organize?
On Thursday, January 26, 2017 at 10:11:49 PM UTC+1, Ant wrote:
sobriquet wrote: On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 11:36:58 AM UTC+1, Ant wrote: Hello. I have hundreds of image files all over in many of their own deep (folder/directorie)s since I specifically organized them on my drives. I tried Flickr and Google Photos, but they do not organize them in multiple folders deep with albums. Also, uploading from many drive's locations is a pain and tedious. It would be nice to upload all at once in their original locations to the server as well. Does anyone know if there is a free online image host service can meet my requirements? Thank you in advance. Why not just upload them to flickr and use album names that reflect the full path? For instance, if you have a folder 'flowers' with a subfolder roses, you could simply store those images in an album named flowers-roses on flickr. In this fashion you would still have a fairly organized collection of albums, since they are stored alphabetically and all the subfolders of a particular folder would be listed together in the overview of albums on flicker. You'd need to have a ridiculous amount of subfolders to run into problems with this method and with 1 tb of free space at flickr you can still store a huge number of pictures. That is the problem. I have ridiculous amount of subfolders and files. :/ How many subfolders are we talking about? 1000? 10000? How many pictures? 1000000? |
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A free online image host service that lets me organize?
sobriquet wrote:
How many subfolders are we talking about? 1000? 10000? How many pictures? 1000000? 61 (folder/directorie)s with 171 files in total according to 64-bit Windows 7's Explorer. -- Quote of the Week: "What, like I had to live with all those ants? Do you know what I did to those ants? HoooHooo! No more ants!" --unknown Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- ( ) ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. |
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A free online image host service that lets me organize?
"Whisky-dave" wrote
| didn't know about spyware and google photos is there some link between them ? | Google is an advertising company with a business based on targetted ads. Their basic business model is to give away free services, collect data from those, and process that data to build the biggest possible dossier on the largest possible number of people. | | Of course, people using Picassa can still do | | backup, but with that approach you've inserted | | a superfluous level of abstraction between | | yourself and your photos, making it less likely | | and more difficult for backup to happen. | | | | nonsense. one has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the other. | | I can see why you wouldn't see the connection. | | Because there isn't one. | It's the same connection as people using MS Office and letting Word store their docs. I've run into it numerous times helping people with their computers. MS Word puts docs into the personal documents folder without asking. That makes it very easy for people who don't understand how to use the file system. But it's an extra level of abstraction for convenience. The result is that most people don't know how to find their docs except by opening Word. When their computer crashes they lose their files because they didn't understand how the whole thing worked. This discussion is a great example. You and nospam actually don't believe it's possible for people to keep track of their data! That's like a person who's only eaten in restaurants thinking that you're lying when you tell them you cook at home. | You probably also use automated software to handle | your backups. That might work out OK. | | It does for most adn most commercail organisation and for google and for most. | They have IT staff to handle the whole thing. It's not automated. It's delegated. I know tech people who set up their customers with something called Aconite. I think it's something like $70/year and does auto-backup. That's OK. The whole point here is not that auto-backup is bad. Nor is an image organizer bad. I'm just pointing out that they're unnecessary steps with tradeoffs. If the Aconite users understood their file system and knew how to write a DVD or use a thumbstick they could save $70 and not have to depend on an online company. They also wouldn't have to trust that company with their private files. Did you know such sites are required by law to be nosey? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01...rotect_workers What if you store a photo of your 3-year-old grandchild, naked at the beach? There could be people sitting around somewhere trying to decide whether they should sic the Feds on you. All of that because you didn't bother to learn how to do your own backup. | I know where my files are | | No you do not, I bet you have absolutly no idea what sector or track your files are on, or where abouts that is on your disk. | No. A given image may not even be stored as contiguous data. But as you know, that's irrelevant. You're being silly. I know where my pickup truck is even though I can't give you the lat/long coordinates of my driveway. I know how to find the theoretical photo of auntie. I have it backed up on DVDs and hard disks. I have copies in my safe deposit box. I just backed up my entire graphics partition last weekend. The file system *is* the abstraction layer that makes your images available as files in your Family folder on G drive, or whatever path. That's how you know where they are. That's why I'm saying that an image organizer is an unnecessary, extra level of abstraction. |
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A free online image host service that lets me organize?
"Whisky-dave" wrote
| For those of us who like to | organize and keep track of things ourselves, | a folder is not likely to be named "People". | Maybe something like \Personal\Family\Party99. | Or maybe just \Party99 if you don't go to many | parties. | | But how does that help yuo find your aunt, or someone. | Was everyone you know at that party ? | I have no trouble finding photos, or anything else. I store things systematically and the system makes sense to me. If you can't do that then I guess you'll need to keep using your image organizer. Luckily for you this isn't 1999, when you would have needed to actually understand how to navigate the file system because there was nothing like Picassa. |
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