[review] "The Adobe Photoshop CS4 Book for Digital Photographers"by Scott Kelby

Atheist Chaplain wrote:
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:33:35 +1000, Troy Piggins
wrote:

* Better Info wrote :
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:08:45 -0500, tony cooper
wrote:

Better Info

I have no need to try to pawn off bad photography bounded in an
instructional book to try to make all that wasted time and effort
with a
camera worth it. My photography stands on its own merit. I don't
have to
trick anyone into buying it.

What if everyone was downloading your photography for free off
binary groups when you were trying to sell it?

Then I stop selling it publicly, just as I have for that very reason.
They're now by private sale only, in limited editions. It's not my loss,
it's everyone else's loss. I could care less if I sell any more of my
photography. I already earned more than I can ever use in a lifetime.

Judging by those photography instructional books, the photography world
would be a much better place if those authors pulled their books
permanently. They're not even worth stealing. If it ain't worth stealing,
it sure as hell ain't worth buying.


Douggie ??

Sounded that way to me.

Better Info wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:33:35 +1000, Troy Piggins

What if everyone was downloading your photography for free off
binary groups when you were trying to sell it?

Then I stop selling it publicly, just as I have for that very reason.

What do we need to do so that you stop posting "publicly"?

I guess nothing will work, since you never did any photography
in first place ...

-Wolfgang

Ray Fischer wrote:
Better Info wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:33:35 +1000, Troy Piggins
wrote:

* Better Info wrote :
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:08:45 -0500, tony cooper
wrote:

Better Info

I have no need to try to pawn off bad photography bounded in an
instructional book to try to make all that wasted time and effort
with a camera worth it. My photography stands on its own merit. I
don't have to trick anyone into buying it.

What if everyone was downloading your photography for free off
binary groups when you were trying to sell it?

Then I stop selling it publicly, just as I have for that very reason.
They're now by private sale only, in limited editions.

Shrug. How hard is it to duplicate "limited" edition photos?

More to the point, if he's earned more than he can use in a lifetime, why
does he give a **** if anyone helps themselves to his stuff? Why go to the
effort of selling privately?

BEEEEEEEEEEYULL****!

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:01:02 +1000, "Here's Johnny" wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:
Better Info wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:33:35 +1000, Troy Piggins
wrote:

* Better Info wrote :
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:08:45 -0500, tony cooper
wrote:

Better Info

I have no need to try to pawn off bad photography bounded in an
instructional book to try to make all that wasted time and effort
with a camera worth it. My photography stands on its own merit. I
don't have to trick anyone into buying it.

What if everyone was downloading your photography for free off
binary groups when you were trying to sell it?

Then I stop selling it publicly, just as I have for that very reason.
They're now by private sale only, in limited editions.

Shrug. How hard is it to duplicate "limited" edition photos?

More to the point, if he's earned more than he can use in a lifetime, why
does he give a **** if anyone helps themselves to his stuff? Why go to the
effort of selling privately?

BEEEEEEEEEEYULL****!

More to the point, a limited edition has the photographer's signature and
accompanying notarized documentation, for ownership and establishing future
provenance. Also, the signature cannot be duplicated unless you have access
to a gas-chromatograph and an electron microscope. Even then it would be
extremely difficult due to the minute traces of unique and inert compounds
I add to one or more of the inks used for printing. Each run of prints
having a unique ink-signature as well as another unique ink combination
used for the handwritten-signature. A molecular combination lock if you
will. I know enough about chemistry, technology, and forensics to have
ensured this degree of difficulty to secure the ownership of my works.

The fact that none of you even know how this works (limited editions for
photography, even just by establishing a notarized provenance only) loudly
proclaims your own words as nothing but more newsgroup-trolls'
"BEEEEEEEEEEYULL****!"

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:05:25 +1100, Bob Larter
wrote:

On 14/12/2009 8:00 AM, Better Info wrote:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:01:02 +1000, "Here's wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:
Better wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:33:35 +1000, Troy Piggins
wrote:

* Better Info wrote :
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:08:45 -0500, tony cooper
wrote:

Better

I have no need to try to pawn off bad photography bounded in an
instructional book to try to make all that wasted time and effort
with a camera worth it. My photography stands on its own merit. I
don't have to trick anyone into buying it.

What if everyone was downloading your photography for free off
binary groups when you were trying to sell it?

Then I stop selling it publicly, just as I have for that very reason.
They're now by private sale only, in limited editions.

Shrug. How hard is it to duplicate "limited" edition photos?

More to the point, if he's earned more than he can use in a lifetime, why
does he give a **** if anyone helps themselves to his stuff? Why go to the
effort of selling privately?

BEEEEEEEEEEYULL****!

More to the point, a limited edition has the photographer's signature and
accompanying notarized documentation, for ownership and establishing future
provenance. Also, the signature cannot be duplicated unless you have access
to a gas-chromatograph and an electron microscope. Even then it would be
extremely difficult due to the minute traces of unique and inert compounds
I add to one or more of the inks used for printing.

ROTFL! Yeah, sure thing. Like anyone here believes that you've ever sold
a print in your life.


Bob Larter's legal name: Lionel Lauer
Home news-group, an actual group in the "troll-tracker" hierarchy:
alt.kook.lionel-lauer (established on, or before, 2004)
Registered Description: "the 'owner of several troll domains' needs a group where he'll stay on topic."

http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&num=10&as_ugroup=alt.kook.lionel-lauer

"Results 1 - 10 of about 2,170 for group:alt.kook.lionel-lauer."

Better Info wrote:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:01:02 +1000, "Here's Johnny" wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:
Better Info wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:33:35 +1000, Troy Piggins
wrote:

* Better Info wrote :
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:08:45 -0500, tony cooper
wrote:

Better Info

I have no need to try to pawn off bad photography bounded in an
instructional book to try to make all that wasted time and effort
with a camera worth it. My photography stands on its own merit. I
don't have to trick anyone into buying it.

What if everyone was downloading your photography for free off
binary groups when you were trying to sell it?

Then I stop selling it publicly, just as I have for that very reason.
They're now by private sale only, in limited editions.

Shrug. How hard is it to duplicate "limited" edition photos?

More to the point, if he's earned more than he can use in a lifetime, why
does he give a **** if anyone helps themselves to his stuff? Why go to the
effort of selling privately?

BEEEEEEEEEEYULL****!

More to the point, a limited edition has the photographer's signature and

Go to hell, asshole spammer.

--
Ray Fischer

I bought two of Kelby's books early in my digital photo screwing around
career.

They rapidly become insufferable due to his cutsy crap. About as bad as
some of those "idiot's" books.

did find one book that was useful and not insufferable, "Maximum
Performance" by Mark Galer.

* clw wrote :
I bought two of Kelby's books early in my digital photo screwing around
career.

They rapidly become insufferable due to his cutsy crap. About as bad as
some of those "idiot's" books.

did find one book that was useful and not insufferable, "Maximum
Performance" by Mark Galer.

The Martin Evening Lightroom 2 book was excellent. I have since
ordered the Martin Evening Photoshop book and intend to get rid
of the Kelby one.

--
Troy Piggins