In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

What is the metric for visual appeal? What is the metric for fun?

fun isn't the issue.


Nope. Not for you. Some of the rest of us do like to enjoy our
hobby, though.

I certainly enjoy digital photography; probably more than I enjoyed
film.

Well, I enjoy photography. Not digital photography. Not film
photography. Just photography. Going out and trying to find a
subject that's interesting and capturing it in an interesting way.
Doesn't make any difference how it's captured.

I also enjoy post-processing digital images and seeing what I can get
from them. I don't do it myself, but I can understand why someone
would enjoy doing the same thing in a darkroom with film.

nospam says fun isn't the issue. I think it's the whole issue. If he
isn't enjoying photography, he should find another hobby.

you're twisting things again, and this isn't about me either.

nospam says the results are better with digital, but "results", for
the hobby photographer is very subjective. What pleases the person
who captures it, is the best result.

missing the point *entirely*.

It is an absolute given that whenever you accuse someone of the
missing the point, the point missed is the point that you are the only
one concerned with.

nope.

the topic is whether digital can duplicate the film look and whether it
can exceed what film can do.

That's *your* topic. You changed the topic when you wrote that fun is
not the issue. Topics are fluid and change as a thread progresses.

i didn't change *anything*, you lying sack of ****.

russell deliberately tried to change the topic because he refuses to
acknowledge that digital has long surpassed film.

You can pound your little fists and stomp your tiny feet and insist we
talk about what you want to talk about, but topics change as people
contribute. We decide. Not you. Much as you want to be in control,
you are not.

what a hoot. the only person trying to control things is *you*.

of course topics drift. that's not the problem here.

the problem is when assholes like yourself lie about what's been said
solely to argue and bash. it's all you do. you're an asshole to the
core.