On 10/11/2018 8:12 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 11/10/2018 13.36, Neil wrote:
On 10/10/2018 8:10 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2018-10-10 10:58, Neil wrote:
On 10/10/2018 10:25 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 10/10/2018 12.59, Neil wrote:

As I don't power up Windows often (I'm a Linux user), the day I use
Windows I tell it to search for updates now, instead of letting it
there
for days waiting for the updates to come.

I don't read that as saying yes to optional updates: once I tell
Windows
to search for updates it starts searching, then downloading, then
updating on its own, taking an awful long time to do it. Like two days
of updating and rebooting several times.

I take "optional" to mean an update that I can refuse to do, that it
actively asks me whether I want it or not. That did not happen.

I wrote that there are optional SETTINGS (read it again). One does
not have to enable IDK updates in any version of Win10, which makes
them "optional". That has nothing to do with whatever you are
referring to as "optional updates".

I'm still running WinXP (home) and Win 7 (work) to support legacy s/w
and an accounting program.Â* Both on Macs under a virtualizer.

Â*From what I keep reading about Win 10 I shudder to think I may have
to go there some day... (different "editions" with different abilities
and limitations, arbitrary updates (just when you have to get
something else done...)

Many people don't understand Win10 and keep treat it like it's an
updated version of XP. As a result they create most of the problems they
have for themselves and then whine about it on the internet. I've used
and supported several machines running Win10 for over 2-1/2 years
without a single problem on any of them because I saw what was coming
and how to manage it during the Windows 8.x years. So, even though Win10
is my least favorite version of the OS, I can't say that it's
functionally any worse than earlier versions.

FWIW, there have been different "editions with different abilities and
limitations" since Windows 3.1, so that also isn't anything new.

Yet we can not set updates on "manual", so as to choose the exact moment
when to do or not do updates. At least not on the home versions.

Sometimes I want to power off the machine and it refuses because it is
applying an update that instant, and takes an hour or two to do it,
during which I can not power off and go with the laptop in the bag.

Maybe this is not a problem to people with machines connected and
powered all day, all week. But it is to me that I power it up seldom.
Maybe once a month, to process some photos.


Thank you for representing the point I was making, above. If you used
Win8.x, it would have broken you of such habits! ;-)

--
best regards,

Neil