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Old April 7th 07, 01:18 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.misc,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.digital,uk.rec.photo.misc
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Default Turning film cameras into digital cameras

On Apr 6, 11:05 pm, Charles wrote:
On 6 Apr 2007 19:28:31 -0700, wrote:



Let's for the moment we think "out of the box". If there is a product
which has the shape of either a 35 mm or 120 film cartridge, and you
can just load it into your old film camera. However, this product acts
like a digital "film", in which it will store images in digital
format, instead of into film, would you buy such a product? It is
just exactly like your old film cartridge, put into the back of your
camera, set the camera as it has a film in it, advance the lever ,
take photos, go to next shot, etc. The difference would be when you
complete the shots (24 or 36 exposure), you connect this cartridge to
your computer and downloaded the digital data, just like a media card
in your digital cameras. This product would be re-used again and
again, just like the digital cameras.
Some of you may said that is the same question whether there is a
"back cartridge" that can be fitted into the old Hasselblad, Mamiya RB
or M645, in which it changes into digital cameras. However, I heard
that this speacil back is very expensive. Correct me if such a product
exist for professional photographers, but at a very high costs! (such
that it is just easier to throw away the old cameras and buy a new
digital one).
The next question is whether technically this is possible. Will people
buy them, and use their old cameras (which some had invested heavily
before the digital era came to play). This sounds like a crazy idea,
but I sometime wonder that if it is possible. There are lots of smart
people and inventors in this world, and I am sure they have the brain
to create such a product. I am sure that this would not be welcomed by
digital cameras' manufacturers, as it will compete with their product.
Although some of the "players" are still the same (Kodak, Fuji, Nikon,
Canon, Pentax, etc).
Unfortunately, we are living in a world which are driven by narrow
"track of minds", set by big corporations which decided upon our
direction into the future.
Thanks for sharing my "dream". I am now awake from my day dreaming.
Thanks for the discussion.


Sounds like the old "silicon film."

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0109/01...mvaporizes.asp


Thanks for the reference to the "silicon film", Honestly, I never
heard that before. Again, there are people out there who have thought
ideas like this. However, I wonder why this particular idea became
"cold". Could it be for one or more of the following reasons?
- it was not developed by a big corporation with big dollar. Would it
make any difference if it was developed by Fuji or Kodak?
- Big camera companies may oppose the idea, as they have their own
agenda, or want to sell more digital cameras (therefore provide
"barrier" instead of promoting it).
- Expensive cost to develop, as well as to market against those
selling digital camera. Remember those new 35 mm film system, which
did not seem to "fly" just before the digital world take over... I
even forget the name... the one that can be printed in various sizes?
- Too restrictive of a product - i.e. the EFS (e-film) was only
targetted for specific cameras only. The idea of the silicon film/e-
film (after I read a PDF file from the developer in the web) was to
have the product ready for only certain Nikon and Canon 35 mm cameras.
My thinking was different. The product that I have in mind (similar to
the EFS or silicon film), is not only that it looks similar to the
existing 35 mm camera cartridge, it should function to ANY 35 mm
cameras... not just certain brand of camera. If Kodak/Fuji can sell a
35 mm film cartridge and fit to any cameras, why the silicon film can
work only for certain cameras?. I think this is the main drawback.
Perhaps with newer technology, the idea can be re-introduced and
improvement to the silicon film can be made? Or they "missed the
train" already?
I still think it is a neat idea, but it has to be relatively cheap to
compete with the current market.

Thanks for all replies in these newsgroups!