DRS wrote:
"Robert Coe" wrote in message

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:48:21 +1100, "DRS"
wrote:
"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message

You have allowed your country to become a vast Socialist nanny
state where everything is "free" and everything is controlled. So,
why are you so surprised that the State now wants to chip away at
your freedoms one by one? Your country has never had a formal
consitution which states all of your freedoms, rights, and
protections as does the US Constitution and Bill of Rights which
leads me to believe you got just what you deserved. The fix? Vote
the Socialists clowns out of office, elect some representatives
that will do what the people want them to do and NOT do what the
people don't want them to do, write a formal document defining your
rights, and take back your country from the Socialists.
You first. Get rid of the Patriot Act, the warrantless wiretapping
and all the rest and then you can talk.
We have, at least, finally gotten rid of the worst of the clueless
goobers who foisted those outrages on us (which, I guess, is one of
the things that has made Jerry so apoplectic). So please cut us some
slack while the new guys try to shovel the place out.

Obama has made it clear there will be no investigation, much less
prosecution, of Bush Administration officials who broke both domestic and
international laws on things like torture because he is focused on "moving
forward", as if crimes are not always prosecuted after the fact. So much
for his promise to restore the rule of law in America. He's made some
symbolic gestures (ie, closing Gitmo down was easy because it had become a
huge embarrasment anyway) but I'm not seeing substantive change. Hardly
surprising, really, since half his administration consists of Republicans
who help create the various messes he inherited in the first place.


You have a very interesting POV. In reality, government in the US (and
I suspect every country) is driven of things other than laws, and
international agreements. I suspect than when Obama found out just how
things REALLY are at his National Security and other classified
briefings, his reaction was "What have I gotten myself into?" I suspect
it is the same for each president. It's a job no sane person would ever
willingly take, which tells you a lot about presidents in general. Bush
had his 9-11, and Obama has an economic meltdown. I only hope that
Obama does as well with his crisis as Bush did with his. If so, then by
the end of his first year, we will all be safe from any further economic
woes. Somehow I suspect that will NOT happen because Democrats just
don't understand economics.