Then let me make it plainer. Unless they were always much paler than
reality, or the reproduction (in books that seem to get everything more
recent correct) wis poor, there are a lot of really faded autochromes out
there. Yes there are many pastel colours in nature, but there are many more
in old colour photographs.

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"Steve House" wrote in message
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Look around you at nature - mostly pastel as well, with notable
exceptions. "Vibrant" does not necessarily mean the super-saturated
colours of advertising photography and video game graphics. I think of
it as meaning closer to "alive" and when applied to artwork as meaning
"retaining the spirit of the creator as put into the work when
originally created." A print by Weston or Cunningham is vibrant without
any colour at all.

"Tony Spadaro" wrote in message
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Have you actually seen any vibrant autochromes? I ask because the
ones
I've seen look pretty pastel to me.
The life expectancy of the common lab print - 99% of all colour
prints
being made today - is 20 years and a lot look pretty bad in only one
or two
years.

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Don't know of any 200 year old photographs either colour or B&W,
mainly
cause photography wasn't invented until the 1840's. But there are
colour prints that are 100 years old and still looking good. Look
up
"Carbro Process" and "Autochrome."

The Autochrome process produced prints before 1910 that are still
vibrant today.

http://www.institut-lumiere.org/engl...utochrome.html
http://toosvanholstein.nl/greatwar/kleur/kleur.html

Of course, for truly archival colour photography today one can take
the
camera original and from it create tri-colour separation B&W
gelatin-silver negatives on glass plates processed and stored
archivally. There are a number of top-ticket professional labs and
museums that do exactly that.


"Rafe B." wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:08:36 -0700, Tom Phillips

...snip...

May not outlast silver and gelatin, but with care can
eaisily outlast most conventional color photogrraphic
prints. So where are the 200 year old color photograhic
prints and where can I see them?



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