September 16th 12, 03:18 AM
posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Nikon D600 a compromise but ok
On 15/09/2012 5:11 PM, Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
Rob wrote:
On 15/09/2012 12:06 PM, Rich wrote:
Most cameras today function well enough when they work that anyone can
take a decent image. Low-light capability is very good, focusing (in
most cases is very good). So, the only differentiators are the problems
and the short-comings. $2100 for a 1/2 plastic body when the D300 was
$1700 and all metal, 4 years ago? Counter-balancing this is that it's a
$2100 FF. The D800 and it's horrible focusing problems, a deal-killer
for many a new Canon owner. These are the only things that really make a
difference, not whether a D600 and D7000 have fractionally different high
ISO capability.
Where did you get the horrible focus problems from?? So you own a D800
then.? or just read about them?
I've read about the D800 too!
It's very interesting to read about them, and to then
compare a real camera to what clowns like Rich say.
For a start its a not bad just a few rants and lots of BS you don't have
to use the LHS for the focus, its not a sports action camera. Not all
cameras came with the problem. There have been no cameras released since
mid year with the problem and those which did have them, have had
firmware updates.
In fact though, very few people have ever been able to
factually determine if their camera has the problem!
It requires using a pretty special chart and technique to
get everything just right to even see it. It flat is not
something normal photography will bring about.
I have read some reviews and can't see why DOF can't pull the problem
back into focus.
Exactly! In fact, I did check my cameras to see if I
could see anything that made a difference. Now, that's
not saying I went to the trouble to see if the left side
is less accurate with an f/1.4 aperture than the right
side. I only checked to see if it would affect my
photography.
I can't see any difference in the various high end Nikon
models that I have access to. And one specific reason
is that I am well aware that I will *never ever* take a
shot using the far left side (or right for that matter)
focus point when shooting wide open with an f/1.4 lens.
If the issue was missing focus targets at f/2.8, or for
that matter even at f/1.8, I might be upset. But that
isn't what happens so I'm happy enough.
The D800 makes you think more about how you take the shot, as its a lot
more defining on ones own neglect.
The photographer has to redefine where limits are for
various parameters, simply because the D800 moves them
significantly away from where we've generally thought
our "rules of thumb" put them. But a lot of folks are
misunderstanding that too! Not getting "best results"
doesn't mean results not as good as any other camera, it
just means that using the same technique will restrict
the results to being no better than other cameras. To
get *better* results, better techniques are required
because the camera is indeed that much better.
Oh BTW I have the 800E 
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