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Old August 31st 08, 05:52 AM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,alt.photography
BlackShadow
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Usenet Police wrote:
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BlackShadow wrote:

Police *cannot* and will not ignore a suspect child abuse or paedophile
issue, even if they immediately suspect that the person involved is just an
idiot with a loud mouth and not really a paedophile. Of course, as long
nothing else they do is illicit, if their possessions are all legitimate,
if they don't have vindictive exes, if their employers are open-minded, if
their neighbours are understanding and trust them, if the kids at their
children's school don't gossip, then all will be ok - as long as they
aren't paedophiles.


I'm glad I don't live in whatever fascist/communist country you live in
where vindictive people see nothing wrong with turning in complete
strangers (who might just be the same person using two different names)
to the police for something written in a newsgroup,


If what is written consists of consistent claims that the other is a
paedophile then you could consider a person who ignored it as more
vindictive toward children.

and making
accusations that don't have a chance of holding up in a proper court of
law.


I have made no accusation, they have, and if any of it is true then it will
a Police action in a criminal court. No tort law involved here.


Try it here buddy-boy and you'll be facing a defamation lawsuit a mile
long that will take the rest of your life to pay off.


Do you have any more puff and bluster? That first bit didn't have much effect.

Reporting a possible crime is not actionable. If it goes further it will be
the Police who make the decision and I doubt they are likely to be sued for
defamation. They don't prosecute without evidence. If the people who have
been accusing each other of being a paedophile are inconvenienced by a
period of close Police scrutiny, then it is something they should have
considered before choosing this particular path. There are two things that
authorities don't take lightly in modern western society, potential
terrorism and potential child molesting.

"Nothing to fear
from an illegal search if you've got nothing to hide", hunh?


So they tell me - the honest people that is. Other's opinions may differ. I
gather yours does. Can we ask why?


The favorite line from the jack booted thugs known as "law enforcement
officers" in countries where the citizens have no rights to begin with.


Nobody had any rights to begin with, it was law enforcement that secured
and now maintains those rights.

You do live in China, right?


How did you guess?

Interestingly, after an "off the record" conversation this morning with a
member of an organisation called "Police Task Force Argos" about this
matter, I was told that non-paedophiles, in Police experience, are so
uncomfortable with paedophilia that they won't use the term, even joking or
as a term of abuse. The nice lady Police Officer tells me that true
paedophiles do tend to use it a lot to offend other people. That
conversation will continued on Monday afternoon. She, and a couple of her
compatriots are coming to visit and have a chat about the matter, but this
time it will be "on the record".

Of even more interest is the fact that Police forces have an international
cooperative agreement to aid each other in investigations of this nature.
The US Police won't ignore a request from the Australian Police to
investigate someone if it gets to that stage. At the moment I am pretty
sure it will. Already joint Australian/US Police plus FBI and Interpol have
brought charges against several hundred paedophiles from all over the
world. Often, she told me, they start with a tip as inconsequential as
this. Look at a coupleof months ago when all those people were arrested
simply for having their IP addresses logged by a Russian server that
carried child pornography. That was Task Force Argos in action. Two of them
committed suicide as soon as they were charged and many of them have
already been sentenced to long goal terms. That started when someone on a
news group accused another of being a paedophile, but in that case they
really were. I wonder what will happen in this case? Many of them had
deleted all files but the Police were still able to have them resurrected.
They weren't thorough enough.

Do you know what one of the first things the Police do is? They have a list
of all WEB and FTP addresses, plus peer to peer IP addresses that have been
known to support child porn or other (violent rape, bestiality) porn and
they run a check to see using their suspect's ISP records to see whether
the suspect has ever visited those sites. If they have, then the hunt is
definitely on. This is a very interesting experience for me, I'm getting to
meet some very interesting people and learn about some interesting techniques.


BlackShadow