On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:29:48 -0600, Frederick U.
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:09:47 -0800, John McWilliams wrote:

tony cooper wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:52:23 -0600, charles-billings
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:59:04 -0500, tony cooper
wrote:

The people who have trouble with camera store sales clerks are the
amateurs who come into the store thinking that they know more than the
clerk and are more intent on proving this than they are in being
informed. The clerks usually figure this out early in the
conversation and stop being helpful. They know they aren't going to
convince this know-it-all that (brand) lenses are good, and they just
lay back and let the customer run the show. Then the customer struts
out thinking "That guy isn't qualified to sell cameras".
No, the people who have problems with camera store clerks are those that know
more than the clerk ever will. They quickly find out that the clerk is trying to
pawn off the item that will make the most money for the store or clerk and has
the highest retail markup. Then when you try to explain to the ignorant clerk
whey they are ignorant, the start pulling red-herring sales tactics that make
themselves look even more stupid. So you have to sit there and argue with that
ignorant moron clerk trying to convince them you don't want what's popular and
what all the other people are buying, because you only want the camera that you
came for, which you've already researched and found it to be better than
anything that idiot clerk would ever know about.

I can't even begin to tell you how many times this happened in the SLR days when
I was trying to buy Olympus and Zuiko gear and the ****ing moron clerk would
always try to pawn off that "popular" crap-Nikon **** on me. That made more
money for him, and that's the ONLY reason they would try that sales-tactic crap.

You sound just like one of those gawd-awful idiot sales clerks trying to defend
your stupidity and ignorance. I've come this close to punching your
particular kind of self-serving idiot in the face, many times.

Your comments prove my point. The person who truly knows photography
and photographic equipment - and know what they want - doesn't get
into discussions with camera store clerks. They walk in, tell the
clerk what they want to buy, pay for it, and leave. No customer has
to "sit there" and listen to anything.

The fact that you've engaged in argumentive discussions with camera
store clerks indicates that you went in looking for an argument. No
clerk is going to engage in an argument with a buyer that specifies
exactly what he wants unless the buyer provides the opening. When you
say you "explain" why the "ignorant clerk" is "ignorant", you are
admitting that you are looking for an argument. You only tried to
explain because you wanted the argument.

What you wanted was an audience; someone who had to listen to you
blather on about your expertise. Your audience is trapped because
they were paid to stand behind the counter. You, on the other hand,
could have said "Ring up the (item)" and been out of there.

My guess is that the reaction of the camera store clerks when you walk
in the store in your area is "Here comes the blowhard again".

Of course, tony, you are right, but you are also "conversing" with the
pest. The nym-shifting coward polluting the group with his manifesto of
P+S malarky.

Not that there's anyting wrong with that....

:-)

Nothing wrong with that? Oh, then you'll like the appropriate reply that
resident-trolls like Tony usually get, just as appropriate for your comment.


Dear Resident-Troll,

Your reply is completely off-topic. Here are s

I guess you showed him! Hit with the list again! Ouch! And nobody
saw it coming!!!