On 2017-11-13 17:48, nospam wrote:
In article , Alan Browne
wrote:

No. It's crappy advice. Apple will not merge iOS and MacOS despite
greater and greater integration and interoperability between them
(across apps via iCloud and local comms services such as handover).

it depends what you call merge.

under the hood, they're already merged, since both are os x, but with a
different user interface layer and minor other differences.

It's not OS X.

yes it most certainly is os x.

Not at all. But as usual, just say no (nope, nadda, etc.).


It has a lot of OS X components

because it's os x.

It isn't. The essentials of OS X have been blocked or stripped away.
It is iOS for a good reason. 'Cause that is WHAT it is. A mobile
device appliance OS.



but its behaviour, most
notably in the user relationship to the file system is completely
different.

more accurately, the ui layer is the major difference, specifically
appkit versus uikit.

the mac does provide direct file system access, but it's not normally
needed, so that falls into the minor category.

Horse****. Most Apps for Mac are written around the notion that the
file system is widely and almost completely accessible. Most users
access their filespace directly some or most of the time.


there are other minor differences, such as ios not including useless
crap such as man pages or drivers for hardware that will never exist on
any ios device.

Likewise wrt to the gammut of i/o for MacOS v the thin world
of iOS.

there's nothing thin about it.

in fact, some frameworks show up on ios before they do on the mac.

Because they're appropriate to iOS and less so (or not at all) to a
desktop environment.



The main difference is that iOS is mainly a "consumption and capture"
device whereas a Mac is a mainly "workstation and creation" device.
There is overlap (when isn't there?). But they will remain very
separate for many years to come.

that's a myth.

both platforms serve both purposes, depending on the user and tasks.

Wow - what contradiction in one phrase.

there's no contradiction.

different people use ios devices and macs for different things, a
concept you refuse to accept.

There use cases for both that do not have a usable and convenient
overlap area. That is something you refuse to admit because it takes
away your usual combative nonsense posture.


some users consume, some create and some do both, regardless of device,
and not just with macs or ios devices either.

That said, the higher end iPads are becoming desktop class devices in
computing and graphics power.

they already are and have been for a while.

the a11 chip benchmarks faster than recent macbook pros.

But they are hampered to a degree where
storage and peripherals are concerned.

not really
Really. Don't see many Thunderbolt class peripherals running at full
tilt in an iOS environment. Try printing a 4 colour separation from iOS
... etc. Indeed using iOS where a lot of files are in use is pretty
lame all around. It's just not oriented to that.

that's one highly specific use case and you know it.

No. It's not. It's what most creatives actually use. iOS programmers
(lot of them given the apps out there) do their work mainly on Macs.
Not iOS machines.


plenty of people create and edit videos & photos, create and edit
music, write novels or papers and much more, entirely on an ipad or
iphone.

Within the limitations of that experience, that's fine. It's not
optimal for a lot of creative use that needs a larger screen, keyboard,
large disk access, etc.


iOS / iDevices are thinly interfaced. Which is fine for what they do.

anyone who thinks that is not using ios devices to their potential.


No. They're not using them where they can't be used because there's no
file access or particular sorts of i/o access. iOS and such devices are
limited for good reason. There's nothing wrong with that. But to
compare to a full Mac is ludicrous. Oh, yeah. It's you.




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