On 2017-04-26 13:50:17 +0000, android said:

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On 2017-04-25, android wrote:
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On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote:
On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B."
said:

Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would
have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots?

Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after!

TIA for any ideas.

In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less.
The thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast
photographer who would be shooting and much of his/her own
processing from the snapshot shooter.

In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable
cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo
kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras
and very few bother with processing or printing any of their
snapshots.


That's much as I suspected.

Thanks, Savageduck :-)

I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was
difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing
services that were not either very expensive or very bad.

The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same
'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and
were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures
and have the developing and processing done for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films

I remember those. This is what made me refrain from trying them
out: "These films work like any other C-41 film; development causes
dyes to form in the emulsion."
I continued with T-Max and me own little tanks!ヅ Ilford seem make
them still, if I read the article right so it ain't too late yet...

I remember having fun with the 'multi-speed' aspect of Ilford XP400, but
I never got around to doing my own C-41 processing. I still have my old
darkroom kit in boxes somewhere, and my cameras. I should dust them
off!

T-Max is regularly BW so I used D76.

I used acuspeed and HP4 and HP5 I started with out of date HP3 in 50ft rolls.

All the color that I did was some
Cibachrome but that took allot of time and my "lab" was a tad too adhoky
for that in the long run.

I don't rememeber Cibachrome taking much more time than doing B&W
although getting the temps right was more tricky.

You did have to balance the colors,

you mean slide the filters in to the enlarger according to the
instructions on the supplied sheet.

Would not correct the color... No, I used the color head on my
enlarger...

besides tonality a bit and
I don;t remmebr havign a problem with that as I only really used slides
that looked OK.

Right...

work with drums and stuff...
I found it relatively easy.

Got the the drum later for even later but then recognized that I
had moved on then.
I'm sure it ain't snappy though...


I tried agfachrome too but never really liked the colours compared with
Cibachrome.

Agfachrome was a film...

a slide film agfachrome was negs.

Negs would have been Agfacolor...

Agfa had a kits of chemicals for producing colour prints from colour
slides it was more hassle than cibrachrome only tried it once and that
was enough.

Agfas films produced clowncolors!


I do rememeber the interesting smells of Cibachrome and the fizzing
when adding the neutralizer.


I'm sure you did... :-!

Well that was the original Cibachrome later they came out with version
2 which didn;t need nuetralising.

You seem to have smelled it goood! Thou shall not inhale...

Now we know the effects of oxygen deprivation, and long term exposure
to the toxic effects of wet darkroom chemicals, when you don't have
good ventilation.
--
Regards,

Savageduck