"Bill" wrote in message
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"Protoncek (ex.SleeperMan)" wrote in message
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"RichA" wrote in message
And the contenders are (in no specific order):

1. Canon 17-85 IS
2. Canon 17-40 L

I have a Canon 17-40 L and it is sharp as a tack, it is my stay on the
camera lens.

Not on the edge, unless you really stop it down.
http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/57631694

that's what i meant...people (who own it) just like to exagerrate a
bit...

It's not an exaggeration at all. The lense is well known to be that good,
and my own experience with it agrees with the general consensus. You're
free to believe what you want, but believing RichA is like believing that
Superman is real - it's all in a fantasy world.

For some background - Rich is well known in these groups as a troll and a
questionable source of information and/or facts. He doesn't own the
equipment he claims to have "tested" nor is there any evidence that he
even owns a camera, let alone a DSLR.

Now for the facts - the image Rich posted is of questionable origin. The
reason it's questioned is three-fold:

1 - The image sucks for a 17-40 which I know performs much better.

2 - The image size is wrong for the 30D - original size is 4368x2912 which
is the 5D file size at 12.7 megapixels (30D is 3504x2336 8.2mp).

3 - There is no exif data and we have no idea if the image was processed
or not.

And finally, here's a link to a comparison of the 17-40 and 16-35 lenses
from Canon. The results agree with my own personal experience:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...on-17-40.shtml

You may wish to do yourself a favour and question anything Rich has to
say. Personally, I filter his posts so I don't have to see his trolling
drivel.

ok...as i said, surely lens must be better, since first, it's L, and second,
it's expensive... just leave me some benefits as long i have a cheaper
one... :-))
BTW...i hope that by the time i'll have cash for better lens they'll put out
something in similar range like 17-85. I love this range...it's wide, and on
the other hand has quite a zoom. having two lenses instead of one can be
annoying, as come the time when i would have to change very often... Ok, one
option is 24-105, but it lacks some wide end, though...maybe some 10-22
would be needed in this case...
what would you say about 24-105 lens ? It's an L lens, and have IS, which i
found very usefull.