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Old November 11th 17, 05:04 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 21:08:35 -0500, nospam
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

By that reasoning, all PC box manufacturers and assemblers,
including
HP and Dell are run by stupid people.

pretty much, and a very accurate assessment of dell.

They must be doing something right. They have twice the market share
of Apple.

market share doesn't matter and apple doesn't chase it anyway.

apple, with it's supposedly 'low market share', is on the verge of
becoming the first *trillion* dollar company, while hp, with 'twice the
market share of apple', is but a tiny fraction of apple, currently
about $35b.

if anyone is doing something right, it's apple.

But it's not with desktop PCs.

yes with desktop pcs.

mac sales are up while the overall pc market is shrinking.

You are changing the subject.

nope.

We were originally comparing Apple and
Dell who of the latter you wrote (above) "assemblers, including HP and
Dell are run by stupid people .... pretty much, and a very accurate
assessment of dell." We were not discussing the overall PC market.

yes we were.

just what do you think market share is about, if not the pc market?

hp, dell and apple are all part of the overall pc market.


But the data, the link to which you deleted showed that the "stupid
people" who run Dell have achieved twice the PC market share of Apple.


dell targets a different market segment than apple. the bulk of dell's
sales are corporate contracts, not end user sales. apple's sales are
mostly consumer, a segment dell is extremely weak. for retail sales,
apple owns it. how many dell stores do you see? zero. they were closed
long ago.

but as i said, apple isn't chasing market share.

also, despite apple's supposedly low (and entirely meaningless) market
share, apple is raking in the bucks, more than hp and dell *combined*:
http://www.asymco.com/wp-content/upl...ot-2013-04-16-
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Wiggle wiggle (also squirm). Why don't you continue to talk about the
relative competence of Apple and Dell in the PC market, which is where
you started off?

as i said:
if anyone is doing something right, it's apple.


No wonder you deleted the link and are now trying to change the
subject.


nope. i'm exactly on subject, and understand apple *far* better than
you do.


And I understand the subject where this started off better than you
seem prepared for.

not that it matters since the future is not desktop pcs. that game is
over.

also keep in mind that most of hp and dell sales are corporate
contracts, not end users, which is a totally different market segment,
something those who mindlessly spout market share numbers fail to
understand.

A desktop computer sold is a desktop computer sold. It doesn't really
matter who the buyer is.

absolutely wrong.

Why?

common sense.

do you really think those who buy a $200 netbook, a $1000 laptop, a
$2000 midrange system and a $5000 high end workstation are the same
sort of customers?

not only are the customers different, but the product specs will also
be different as well as the types of tasks done on them.


And their money is all equally good.


whoosh.


Can't answer that, can you.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens