PeterN Wrote in message:
On 5/6/2016 9:43 AM, PAS wrote:
On 5/5/2016 3:56 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 5/5/2016 2:12 PM, Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
Ron C wrote:
Inflated value hype is what jumped out at me in the twitter/ad/spam
for the photo. I have no problem with calling the photo "art" but
"fine art"
seems to (attempt to) put the photo in a more refined class.
So what distinguishes "art" from "fine art"?
[YMMV]

The two terms are actually quite clearly defined, though
it is also true that most people have no idea what
either of them do mean!

Art is "the product of human creativity". It need not
be "good" to be art. If anyone anywhere finds something
that is man made to be beautiful, attractive, or
pleasant in any way... it is art. (Note that the word
"art" is heavily overloaded, and there are many other
valid meanings. This definition applies to what we are
discussing, while other definitions do not.)

Fine Art is a type of art. When used in the context of
"the fine arts" it means things that appeal to our sense
of beauty, or the production of those things. That
includes painting, sculpture, architecture, poetry, and
music as well as photography.

But when applied to photography specifically, Fine Art
Photography means as opposed to Commercial Photography
which is made with purpose for a customer. Fine Art
Photography is made to please the photographer.

Hence if we photograph a fashion show, the images are by
definition art. If we shoot specific shots because the
sponsoring ad agency wants those particular poses to use
in commercial advertisements, that is Commercial
Photography. And if the photographer notices one
particular model looks nice in one specific outfit, and
grabs a shot just because... That is a bit of Fine Art.

Perhaps most if not all work that is called "abstract"
is Fine Art. Anything hanging in a gallery for sale is
Fine Art. Fine Art is the landscape you mount and hang
in the hallway. A portrait sold to the subject of the
photograph is commercial art, but when sold to the
general public just because it is a beautiful picture it
becomes Fine Art.


IIRC Andy Warhol managed to turn some mundane commercial art into fine
art.

And a huge payday too.

Nothing wrong with being paid.

No... It's the other way around that sucks. :-p
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