On 04/21/2017 10:14 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Bill W
wrote:

It's not a film shooter that has claimed superiority. It's the person
who says that film shooters can only produce mediocre results that is
claiming superiority.

Claiming superiority of a technology, and I fully agree. But there are
film shooters who claim superiority of the final output using film.

anyone claiming that is delusional, just like the audiophools who claim
that vinyl sounds better than cds. they live in a fantasyland.

Film is limiting, and that's all anyone is claiming.

yep, and it is. simple physics.

If you take two
identical photos under perfect conditions, one with top 35 mm film,
and the other with a good FF DSLR, the prints should be of equal
quality before any processing is done. I don't think anyone would
argue with that.

i would.

if the same photographer takes two photos of the same subject, same
lighting, same lens, same exposure, etc., one with a film camera and
one with an full frame digital slr, the digital camera will always be
able to produce a higher quality result.


Let me rephrase that: What do YOU mean by quality?