On May 20, 2018, Ron C wrote
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On 5/20/2018 7:43 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On May 20, 2018, Ron C wrote
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On 5/20/2018 5:53 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2018 21:17:04 -0400, wrote:

Eric Stevens:
The world is full of genuinely poor people who can never aspire to
owning a smart phone.

Having lived in S.E. Asia, the Middle East, and East Africa from 1966
to 1993, I have some small degree of awareness of poverty and
deprivation around the world. Nonetheless, among all but the very
poorest of the poor, by which I mean persons like those that Nachtwey
photographed in The Sudan, smartphones are quite common, even where
individuals can't afford them but groups of people or whole villages
can afford to share one.

I would regard a community which had to pool their funds to buy a
smartphone as poor. In such a community there is no hope for an
individual who wants to buy a smartphone or camera.
Somehow this has twisted from my "1st world" problem/irritation
to one of "3rd world" enrichment.
I find it hard to imagine that any of these ultra-poor folks are likely
to have any "Canon Glass" to use on their smartphones.
To my point maybe check out Savageduck's comment in the
" Which would more likely drive someone to a phone camera?"
thread.

Which comment?

I replied to RichA twice in that thread, once to his OP, and once to his
observation regarding the multitude of phones present at the Royal wedding.

...and I agree. I seriously doubt that a villager in Sudan, or the majority
of the population in a country with as good a broadband infrastructure as
South Africa, where mobile phone usage is relatively high, have too much
Canon glass to attach to their phones.
Oh, I was totally thinking of the millions of "to show you're there"
snapshots.
My thoughts ran along the lines of "show you're there" vs "being" there
phenomenon.

That is what I feel about phone camera usage at events from concerts to royal
weddings. They are tools to validate the user’s existence.

Seems Davoud took it as a slam on being able to do anything good with a
phone-cam.

I have no doubt that good work can be done with a phone camera. However, just
as it is with all other cameras, be they FF, MF, APS-C, M4/3, or compact, not
every shooter is producing quality work, and camera phone shooters fall into
the Instamatic class of snapshooter where most shots are banal, and few are
extraordinary.

....but extraordinary work does exist.
https://www.ippawards.com

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Regards,
Savageduck