"David J. Littleboy" wrote in message ...
"Michael Scarpitti" wrote:
"David J. Littleboy" wrote:

Sheesh. This all started because I noticed that sunny 16 gave the wrong
answer enough of the time that it's unacceptable.

F/11 is closer in my experience....

Yup. Earlier in this thread I wrote f/8, but I think I was mis-remembering.

Anyway, even if sunny 16 were correct, it'd still be wrong because (at least
for the stuff I do) I want to reproduce the apparent effect of the scene on
the viewer, not to produce the equivalent of a studio catalog shot of the
subject. That means I need to place the subject on the zone that best
renders the appearance, not the subject's reflectivity.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

If you shoot slide film using the f16 rule then on a sunny day your
shadows will be near black and you'll get no good detail from it. If
what you are interested in is part in shadow and you want to see
details from the shaded part then you open up a stop. If what you are
interested in is largely in shadow then you open up two stops and
don't worry about the bright areas being bleached. This is slide film
I am talking about here. As others have rightly pointed out then for
print film the photo lab can rescue your shot and give you a good
print if you have underexposed.