On 20 Dec 2013 09:45:51 GMT, Sandman wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens wrote:

Sandman:
Incorrect. The conclusion that you are lying is based on your
inability to provide substantiation, period.

Well, when you ask for the engineering certificates of racing
drivers I know you are not seriously looking for evidence of their
technical competence: either that or you think that all skills can
engrained by training. Either way, there is no point in trying to
satisfy you.

You'd have a point if you had provided another, equally viable, support.
Which of course you didn't. I even told you that I just wanted to share in
on the source of your intel, the information you used when you made the
explicit claim of *ALL* "successful" drivers. You weren't able to provide
*ANY* support for this claim. This was an *assumption* on your part and
should have been phrased as such.

However, when you first started telling me I was lying you never
even asked for evidence or gave me the chance to produce it.

Incorrect. I spent some two weeks asking you to back up your claims. You
failed.

Rubbish.

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 21:09:19 +1200 in
Message-ID: I wrote

"I've used operating systems that worked with magnetic drum storage
right through virtually the entire range of both floppy and hard
discs. I bought and used a microcomputer system with one of the
first such hard discs in captivity.

I've set up and written databases using Cromemco DBR (SQL),
Informix (SQL), Basic, C, dBXL, Paradox and one or two others I
can't remember.

I've used file systems including Cromix, Unix, CP/M, PC-DOS and all
flavours of NTFS since version 3.5 (except 8)."

You responded to this saying:

"This I can't believe. *EVERYTHING* you've said leads to the logical
conclusion that you know NOTHING about databases. So I am assuming
that this is just a plain out lie."

See. No request for me to back up my claims. Just an immediate denial
of the truth of my claim and the labeling of it as a lie.

You've gone on from there, disputing everything I say and calling me a
liar at every opportunity.

Had you given me the benefit of the least amount of doubt I could have
given you https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC6945.jpg
which is a link to a corner of my book shelves. You will see *nine*
Paradox manuals covering two generations. In fact the Word Perfect
Office 2002 manual describes Paradox 10. I haven't been collecting
these as a hobby.

Subscribers to this news group will know that I have several times
mentioned the use of a Cromemco computer.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...co%20dBase.jpg is a
screen clip of a most unfortunately coloured catalogue of Cromemco
software. (The original file can be found on page 11 of the 28 slow
loading pages at
http://www.thecomputerarchive.com/ar...20Software.pdf
or http://tinyurl.com/m9w8ct4 )
This page describes the Data Base Management System. At the bottom
there is mention of the 'DBR report writing package'. Although it was
not described as such, this was basically SQL, some time around 1980.

The Cromemco data base software was written by Roger Sippl and Laura
King who previously worked at Cromemco and were responsible for their
database software. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informix_Corporation

So, when I later bought an AT&T 3B2-700 (?) it was natural that I
should buy the Informix package which came with it. It was shortly
after that, that Informix introduced their SQL version which, of
course, I bought.

I'm not going any further along this line. I don't now really care
whether you believe me or not, but please stop pretending you are
virtuous in this matter.

--- snip ---
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens