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Old August 6th 18, 08:41 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_7_]
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Default Is it really illegal to snap a picture of a clerk in a PostOffice?

On 8/6/2018 12:52 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On Aug 5, 2018, wrote
(in ):

On Friday, March 29, 2013 at 9:14:30 PM UTC-5, Danny D. wrote:
Is it illegal to snap a photograph of a clerk inside a post office?


Excessive Nymshifter content snipped

May I ask:
Legally, in California, in a Post Office, when nobody objects,
is it against the law to snap a photograph or otherwise record
the transaction?


Yes! There is a little know FEDERAL Law from the late 1800's that prohibits
it and is a felony to photograph a postal facility. I'm a professional
photographer for 17 years.


That is nice, but you don’t seem to have a comprehensive knowledge of
Federal Law. I hope your professional photography is better than your legal
prowess.

You might also have noticed that you are responding to a post from 2013, for
which answers have been provided.

Very few people know this and you can get into
some very deep legal trouble if you are actually charged/


Your actual knowledge on this subject seems to be quite thin, especially as
to what might constitute a felony. Who knows what that odd legal term “very
deep legal trouble” might actually be.

https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2008/html/pb22228/html/info_005.html


Pertinent quote:
"Here are a few examples of requests that must be directed to the Office
of Rights and Permissions:

A request to use the images of historic murals for commercial purposes.
(Commercial uses may include reproductions of the murals in books or on
posters, fine art prints, greeting cards, stationery, postcards,
clothing, or other merchandising items such as magnets, coffee mugs, or
other materials for resale.)
A request that requires the set up of equipment aside from the camera
itself (e.g., a tripod, ladder, lighting, or scaffolding).
A request to use a high-resolution, professional-grade camera."


I read your citations as being ambiguous.

While casual images may be taken, unless they show images of personal,
if the image is taken by a high resolution camera, (whatever that
means,) or for use in making a fine art print, (whatever that means,)
you need special permission.....

If someone with proper authority asks you to stop and you don't, at the
very minimum it could cost you a lot of time, and legal fees.


...and you should find this notice posted in the foyer of every USPS
facility.

https://about.usps.com/posters/pos7.pdf

Well and clearly written: /End sarcastic tag

"Photographs for News, Advertising, or Commercial Purposes
Photographs for news purposes may be taken in" entrances, lobbies,
foyers, corridors, or auditoriums when used for public meetings except
where prohibited by official signs or Security Force personnel or other
authorized personnel or a federal court order or rule. Other photographs
may be taken only with the permission of the local Postmaster or
installation head."
But, I need permission to take a selfie with an iPhone.



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PeterN