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Me October 21st 15 04:49 AM

New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
 
On 21/10/2015 12:12, RichA wrote:
Will be interesting to look though it, even though I wouldn't spend $12,000 on this with a lens, though I think the asking is worth it. The camera looks like it's built like the proverbial tank.

It's not 4.4 megapixel - it's 1.47. The 4.4 million is "dots". On that
basis, a standard HDTV screen (1080x1920) has 6.2 million dots, and
UHDTV around 25 million dots.
The Leica can come with a kit lens, variable aperture, for about $5k.
$12,500 for an FX mirrorless system with only 24mp.

android October 21st 15 08:01 AM

New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
 
In article , Me
wrote:

On 21/10/2015 12:12, RichA wrote:
Will be interesting to look though it, even though I wouldn't spend $12,000
on this with a lens, though I think the asking is worth it. The camera
looks like it's built like the proverbial tank.

It's not 4.4 megapixel - it's 1.47. The 4.4 million is "dots". On that
basis, a standard HDTV screen (1080x1920) has 6.2 million dots, and
UHDTV around 25 million dots.
The Leica can come with a kit lens, variable aperture, for about $5k.
$12,500 for an FX mirrorless system with only 24mp.


I think that the M series are interesting cameras still, but that the
rest of the models are breadwinners for the owners of the Leica AG, with
the possible exception for the "Q" model. It ain't cheep but nor is its
Sony counterparts.
--
teleportation kills

android October 21st 15 08:59 AM

New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
 
In article ,
RichA wrote:

On Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:49:25 UTC-4, Me wrote:
On 21/10/2015 12:12, RichA wrote:
Will be interesting to look though it, even though I wouldn't spend
$12,000 on this with a lens, though I think the asking is worth it. The
camera looks like it's built like the proverbial tank.

It's not 4.4 megapixel - it's 1.47. The 4.4 million is "dots". On that
basis, a standard HDTV screen (1080x1920) has 6.2 million dots, and
UHDTV around 25 million dots.
The Leica can come with a kit lens, variable aperture, for about $5k.
$12,500 for an FX mirrorless system with only 24mp.


Don't equate mp count with overall value. Sony and Nikon both have low
pixel, high priced bodies.


The price would imply "Magic Pixels (R)" and that would be something
that Apple have in their patent portfolio, don't you think?
--
teleportation kills

android October 21st 15 09:01 AM

New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
 
In article , android
wrote:

In article ,
RichA wrote:

On Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:49:25 UTC-4, Me wrote:
On 21/10/2015 12:12, RichA wrote:
Will be interesting to look though it, even though I wouldn't spend
$12,000 on this with a lens, though I think the asking is worth it.
The
camera looks like it's built like the proverbial tank.

It's not 4.4 megapixel - it's 1.47. The 4.4 million is "dots". On that
basis, a standard HDTV screen (1080x1920) has 6.2 million dots, and
UHDTV around 25 million dots.
The Leica can come with a kit lens, variable aperture, for about $5k.
$12,500 for an FX mirrorless system with only 24mp.


Don't equate mp count with overall value. Sony and Nikon both have low
pixel, high priced bodies.


The price would imply "Magic Pixels (R)" and that would be something
that Apple have in their patent portfolio, don't you think?


And I don't think that Leica is ready for patent battle with Big A...
--
teleportation kills

android October 21st 15 09:02 AM

New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
 
In article , android
wrote:

In article ,
RichA wrote:

On Tuesday, 20 October 2015 23:49:25 UTC-4, Me wrote:
On 21/10/2015 12:12, RichA wrote:
Will be interesting to look though it, even though I wouldn't spend
$12,000 on this with a lens, though I think the asking is worth it.
The
camera looks like it's built like the proverbial tank.

It's not 4.4 megapixel - it's 1.47. The 4.4 million is "dots". On that
basis, a standard HDTV screen (1080x1920) has 6.2 million dots, and
UHDTV around 25 million dots.
The Leica can come with a kit lens, variable aperture, for about $5k.
$12,500 for an FX mirrorless system with only 24mp.


Don't equate mp count with overall value. Sony and Nikon both have low
pixel, high priced bodies.


The price would imply "Magic Pixels (R)" and that would be something
that Apple have in their patent portfolio, don't you think?


And I don't think that Leica is ready for patent battle with the Big A...
--
teleportation kills
http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography

Sandman October 21st 15 11:21 AM

New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
 
In article , Me wrote:

RichA:
Will be interesting to look though it, even though I wouldn't
spend $12,000 on this with a lens, though I think the asking is
worth it. The camera looks like it's built like the proverbial
tank.


It's not 4.4 megapixel - it's 1.47. The 4.4 million is "dots".


Source? Everywhere I read about it says 4.4 megapixel, here's the tech specs from
dpreview:

http://www.dpreview.com/products/leica/slrs/leica_sl_typ601/specifications

I've never seen anyone make the "dots" (which I'm assuming is in reference to RGB
'dots'?) distinction when it comes to EVF resolution. DPReview lists my Sony A7
with a 2.4 MP EVF:

http://www.dpreview.com/products/sony/slrs/sony_a7/specifications



--
Sandman

David Taylor October 21st 15 11:40 AM

New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
 
On 21/10/2015 11:21, Sandman wrote:
[]
I've never seen anyone make the "dots" (which I'm assuming is in reference to RGB
'dots'?) distinction when it comes to EVF resolution. DPReview lists my Sony A7
with a 2.4 MP EVF:


Sony's own "full specifications" says "2,359,296 dots", so that's 800 K
RGB triples, or field sequential. And that number is divisible by three.


http://www.sony.com/electronics/inte...specifications

--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

Me October 21st 15 12:20 PM

New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
 
On 21/10/2015 23:40, David Taylor wrote:
On 21/10/2015 11:21, Sandman wrote:
[]
I've never seen anyone make the "dots" (which I'm assuming is in
reference to RGB
'dots'?) distinction when it comes to EVF resolution. DPReview lists
my Sony A7
with a 2.4 MP EVF:


Sony's own "full specifications" says "2,359,296 dots", so that's 800 K
RGB triples, or field sequential. And that number is divisible by three.


http://www.sony.com/electronics/inte...specifications

Sony even state the viewfinder resolution as 1024 x 768. Common
resolution on old laptops.



Sandman October 21st 15 01:17 PM

New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
 
In article , Me wrote:

David Taylor:
[]


Sandman:
I've never seen anyone make the "dots" (which I'm assuming is in
reference to RGB 'dots'?) distinction when it comes to EVF
resolution. DPReview lists my Sony A7 with a 2.4 MP EVF:


David Taylor:
Sony's own "full specifications" says "2,359,296 dots", so that's
800 K RGB triples, or field sequential. And that number is
divisible by three.


http://www.sony.com/electronics/inte...s/ilce-7-body-

kit/specifications

Sony even state the viewfinder resolution as 1024 x 768. Common
resolution on old laptops.


That's just weird - why would you disingenuously state the number of "dots"? I
suppose this is standard for the business, but it's still ****ing dumb.

So the Sony EVF is 1024*768 = 0.8MP, and the Leica is 1398*1048 (assuming a 4:3
ratio) = 1.5 MP

Still ****ing dumb, but I had no idea - never though about it until now :)

--
Sandman

nospam October 21st 15 02:30 PM

New Leica SL has a 4mp EVF!
 
In article ,
Sandman wrote:

Sony's own "full specifications" says "2,359,296 dots", so that's
800 K RGB triples, or field sequential. And that number is
divisible by three.


http://www.sony.com/electronics/inte...s/ilce-7-body-

kit/specifications

Sony even state the viewfinder resolution as 1024 x 768. Common
resolution on old laptops.


That's just weird - why would you disingenuously state the number of "dots"?


because that way you get a bigger number, and bigger numbers sell.

at least sony calls them dots, so it's technically true.

contrast that with sigma, who triples the number of pixels and
fraudulently calls them pixels. worse, they now have this equivalency
nonsense. the quatro is supposedly a 60 mp equivalent, even though it's
basically just a 5 mp camera.


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