Newbie-- (WET!) Color printing aid question...Which is best?
Want to try my hand at traditional color printing using a Durst enlarger (
CLS-301 head). My question--Which color printing aids are the best bet for a beginner to get a good print? Kodak has them! Jobo has them? whats the best bang for the buck? This is in regard to obtaining proper (tweaking) filtration settings primarily and exposure secondary. J Buke |
Newbie-- (WET!) Color printing aid question...Which is best?
"Jos. Burke" wrote in message ... Want to try my hand at traditional color printing using a Durst enlarger ( CLS-301 head). My question--Which color printing aids are the best bet for a beginner to get a good print? Kodak has them! Jobo has them? whats the best bang for the buck? This is in regard to obtaining proper (tweaking) filtration settings primarily and exposure secondary. J Buke Get yourself a set of the Kodak Color Print Viewing Filters (pub R-25 IIRC). These will help aid you in determining what and how much filtration you need to adjust. Also, Make a standard negative for your film and process. Include someone with average skin tones and a color chart and gray scale. Process this the way you will always process your film. We used to call this a 'Shirley' as that was the name of the model who posed for Kodak (they came in the Color Darkroom Dataguides). Don't rely on someone else's standard negative. Make your own! Jim |
Newbie-- (WET!) Color printing aid question...Which is best?
Jos. Burke wrote:
Want to try my hand at traditional color printing using a Durst enlarger ( CLS-301 head). My question--Which color printing aids are the best bet for a beginner to get a good print? Kodak has them! Jobo has them? whats the best bang for the buck? This is in regard to obtaining proper (tweaking) filtration settings primarily and exposure secondary. I was in the same spot more or less a few months ago. 1) A notebook. Write everything down. On the back of your test prints right down the filter settings and exposure. Don't toss the bad ones. You want to learn what happens when you change the filters. 2) On the Kodak website a series of pdfs on processing Ra-4 can be found. In at least one of those documents is a little chart that goes something like Your print is too: Red add yellow and magenta Yellow add yellow etc etc I assume you mean the Kodak viewing filters. I don't think they are made anymore. I bought a used set and to be honest I've never figured out anything with them. For exposure I just do a test strip. Once you've got the filter settings right for a photo then I found any photo taken under the same lighting doesn't require a change in the filters. It's just a question of getting the exposure right. Nick |
Newbie-- (WET!) Color printing aid question...Which is best?
Nick Zentena wrote:
2) On the Kodak website a series of pdfs on processing Ra-4 can be found. In at least one of those documents is a little chart that goes something like Your print is too: Red add yellow and magenta Yellow add yellow etc etc Ooops the chart is in the document on the Kodak paper. http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe....22.26.3&lc=en I personally got more out of having the section on color balance next to the enlarger then I did from the viewing filters. Nick |
Newbie-- (WET!) Color printing aid question...Which is best?
[snip] I assume you mean the Kodak viewing filters. I don't think they are made anymore. I bought a used set and to be honest I've never figured out anything with them. For exposure I just do a test strip. Once you've got the filter settings right for a photo then I found any photo taken under the same lighting doesn't require a change in the filters. It's just a question of getting the exposure right. Nick Nick, I believe they're still made. At least I see them still offered for sale. They are acetate filters and if you bought a used set, they may be faded or discolored, and therefore not usable. Especially if they came in the Kodak Yellow wallet. The wallet color was changed to black several years ago. In fact, I'm getting ready to order another set as the one's I have are faded To test, lay them on a piece of color paper and give them a short exposure at mid aperture range, and process. You should see the expected colors (red under cyan, green under magenta, etc, etc, etc). You should also see significant changes in color intensity and density. If you don't, they're faded. I found them very helpful when just starting out. Trying to earn the experience to say the print is 7CC to yellow without them was frustrating. However, I will admit, that was in the days of Ektacolor 37 paper (have I been doing this that long - sheese). Ektacolor 37 (and later 74, which was twice the speed) were very picky papers. A couple of seconds to long in the developer and the color shifted. Same with temps. To use them, under daylight (or viewing light if they will be hung under other lighting), you dodge them in and out of your vision while looking at your print at about arms length. Don't let the light that illuminates the paper pass through the filter, or you have twice the color correction (once as the light goes through the filter and again as it's reflected back to your eye through the filter). None of the above will be a help unless you've determined the correct exposure for the print. It's important to have the correct density in your test print before you begin to judge for color. [Nick, some content of this message is for the OP] |
Newbie-- (WET!) Color printing aid question...Which is best?
Jim Phelps wrote:
I believe they're still made. At least I see them still offered for sale. I couldn't find any when I was looking. I actually couldn't even find the set of Kodak printing filters. The various retailers had single filters but I couldn't find the CP set. My viewing filters are in the black wallet. I'm not saying the viewing filters don't work it's just they seem to require you to know what changes are needed. I ended up using the filters more for confirming what the little chart from Kodak said then to figure out what to use. Nick |
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