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Recommendation Request: Good PnS Digital
Basically, the characteristics I think are important a adjustable
flash intensity and adjustable apeture. Maybe also a pre-set macro/ close-up mode......and of course inexpensive (under $120....??). Any other features to suggest? No cameras, PnS or even DSLR has adjustable flash intensity. They are all automatic. You need an external flash to get this functionality. Some camera have adjustable exposure compensation which affects the flash exposure and may accomplish the same thing. But some camera's exposure compensation may affect only available light not the flash. |
Recommendation Request: Good PnS Digital
james wrote:
No cameras, PnS or even DSLR has adjustable flash intensity. They are all automatic. James, you might need to clarify that statement for me (if no-one else). My Nikon D40 and D80 both have flash compensation controls that allow me to adjust the intensity of the flash (both + and -). AFAIK, all Nikon DSLR have this facility. -- Regards Bristolian |
Recommendation Request: Good PnS Digital
In article , james wrote:
No cameras, PnS or even DSLR has adjustable flash intensity. They are all automatic. You need an external flash to get this functionality. pure nonsense. only the most basic cameras lack that ability. |
Recommendation Request: Good PnS Digital
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:14:09 -0700, "james" wrote:
Basically, the characteristics I think are important a adjustable flash intensity and adjustable apeture. Maybe also a pre-set macro/ close-up mode......and of course inexpensive (under $120....??). Any other features to suggest? No cameras, PnS or even DSLR has adjustable flash intensity. They are all automatic. Where on earth do you get this? Some of the Canon Powershots, on manual mode, have 3 levels of output. On all the P, TV, and AV modes they have 13 levels of flash EV compensation, from -2EV to +2EV in 1/3 EV increments. On my other P&S cameras they all allow at least 3 levels of flash-output adjustment. To address a question previously asked (in another post), "is flash even necessary for macros on P&S cameras?" The answer to that is a resounding NO. That's the wonderful thing about P&S cameras for macro photography. Hand-held available light macro shots, even in subdued shadows of dense forests, are easy. The extra DOF afforded by having a smaller sensor design easily provides all the DOF required for even the most demanding of macro shots, no matter what accessory lenses (close-up filters, specialty achromat macro lenses, or reverse-mounted 35mm DSLR lenses) are attached to the camera. |
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Recommendation Request: Good PnS Digital
dale towers wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote: Further Info wrote: "james" wrote: Basically, the characteristics I think are important a adjustable flash intensity and adjustable apeture. Maybe also a pre-set macro/ close-up mode......and of course inexpensive (under $120....??). Any other features to suggest? No cameras, PnS or even DSLR has adjustable flash intensity. They are all automatic. Where on earth do you get this? Some of the Canon Powershots, on manual mode, have 3 levels of output. I susect that this is just a miscommunication. He is correct that you cannot set the flash output. You can only adjust it from its automatic setting. External flash units actually let you set the power level. Wrong. Let's see you provide an actual example. Go get some real cameras one day and learn what they can do, instead of regurgitating troll's nonsense. I have several real cameras, idiot. None allow setting the flash power level. Oh wait, you ARE the originator of that nonsense. You _are_ an idiot. -- Ray Fischer |
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Recommendation Request: Good PnS Digital
On 23 Oct 2009 05:06:03 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
dale towers wrote: (Ray Fischer) wrote: Further Info wrote: "james" wrote: Basically, the characteristics I think are important a adjustable flash intensity and adjustable apeture. Maybe also a pre-set macro/ close-up mode......and of course inexpensive (under $120....??). Any other features to suggest? No cameras, PnS or even DSLR has adjustable flash intensity. They are all automatic. Where on earth do you get this? Some of the Canon Powershots, on manual mode, have 3 levels of output. I susect that this is just a miscommunication. He is correct that you cannot set the flash output. You can only adjust it from its automatic setting. External flash units actually let you set the power level. Wrong. Let's see you provide an actual example. Random pick from Google: http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/prod4901.htm "Other Flash Functions: Manual flash output (3 levels)" For just one of hundreds of P&S cameras that allow you to adjust manual flash output. The auto-flash modes allow 13, 1/3EV increments from -2 EV to +2 EV exposure compensation. Now if you add on CHDK to any of the Powershot P&S cameras, then you have 96 steps per each 1EV exposure level, from -4 to +4 EV, for manual flash output and auto-flash exposure compensation. In effect, that's 769 user-selectable flash output levels possible. (That is something that is not in the CHDK documentation, and that our fool SMS imaginary "chdk expert" troll doesn't even know about because it wasn't implemented in an easy-to-use CHDK menu option. This feature is only available by setting Prop_ID values, processor specific.) Even a 9-year-old Sony P&S camera I have allows 3 levels of manual flash output when on manual-flash mode. Go download some more camera manuals, you know, where you get ALL your camera knowledge from (not from actual cameras of course). You seem to have missed downloading quite a few to add to your pretend-photographer's knowledge-base. Go get some real cameras one day and learn what they can do, instead of regurgitating troll's nonsense. I have several real cameras, idiot. None allow setting the flash power level. That only shows everyone just how lame you are at camera-purchase decisions. Or that you only downloaded a few manuals of cameras and you didn't read them closely enough. That's all it shows. Well, it shows everyone one more important thing: That you are most definitely not someone that should be handing out photography and camera advice to anyone, ever. Oh wait, you ARE the originator of that nonsense. You _are_ an idiot. The above information proves the converse to be true (again). Have at it troll. I've proved you 100% wrong on every claim you have ever made. Don't you grow tired of that? Wouldn't it be better for you go find a newsgroup with some topic where you won't be so easily outted for being nothing but a self-appointed imaginary expert in that field? The end of your virtual-reality role-playing days in these newsgroups is growing nigh. From my POV it's already here. You've been outted so often. |
Recommendation Request: Good PnS Digital
dale towers wrote:
On 23 Oct 2009 05:06:03 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote: dale towers wrote: (Ray Fischer) wrote: Further Info wrote: "james" wrote: Basically, the characteristics I think are important a adjustable flash intensity and adjustable apeture. Maybe also a pre-set macro/ close-up mode......and of course inexpensive (under $120....??). Any other features to suggest? No cameras, PnS or even DSLR has adjustable flash intensity. They are all automatic. Where on earth do you get this? Some of the Canon Powershots, on manual mode, have 3 levels of output. I susect that this is just a miscommunication. He is correct that you cannot set the flash output. You can only adjust it from its automatic setting. External flash units actually let you set the power level. Wrong. Let's see you provide an actual example. Random pick from Google: http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/prod4901.htm "Other Flash Functions: Manual flash output (3 levels)" For just one of hundreds of P&S cameras that allow you to adjust manual flash output. The auto-flash modes allow 13, 1/3EV increments from -2 EV to +2 EV exposure compensation. That's exposure COMPENSATION. As I pointed out before, none allow setting the actual, absolute power level. Many allow an adjustment form the automatic setting. I realize that few people have dealt with external flash units that DO allow setting the actual power level, but surely not everybody can be this clueless? -- Ray Fischer |
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