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Charles Gillen December 22nd 06 02:47 PM

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"jeremy" wrote:

Typically, the stronger company buys up the weaker one's
resources and then sells off the parts that do not fit
What if Hoya were to sell off the camera unit to Samsung?


Sadly, that seems the most likely future scenario :^(

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Bill Funk December 22nd 06 05:06 PM

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On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 05:26:27 -0500, ASAAR wrote:

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:20:33 -0800, Roger N. Clark (change username
to rnclark) wrote:

Well, we have very different priorities in cars, I must admit.


My car must be big enough to hold my big DSLR and all
the lenses I carry ;-)


If/when you sprain your sacroiliac, there's a really neat $150 P&S
camera I know of that can take pictures nearly as well as some $5000
cameras. Then you would need neither a big car nor a pack mule.



g


And its bling factor is... ?
:-)
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replace "g" with "a"

joefoto December 22nd 06 06:06 PM

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Guess I'm just lucky -- decided that Nikon D50 was better for long
term than Pentax k100D. At least the Nikon name is still there today
(and doing pretty well in sales, too). So my purchase of the D50 just
a week ago is even more satisfying.

Joe


Aaron December 22nd 06 07:09 PM

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And lo, Ken Lucke emerged from the ether
and spake thus:
* I'm reminded of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal [c.f.
Douglas Adams], the most mind-numbingly stupid creature in the
universe... as any HHGTTG aficianado should know, it is so stupid
that it thinks that if YOU can't see IT, then IT can't see YOU, and
so the way to escape being eaten by it is to put your towel (you do
have it with you, don't you?) over your head.


ALWAYS know where your towel is.

--
Aaron
http://www.fisheyegallery.com
http://www.singleservingphoto.com

Aaron December 22nd 06 07:16 PM

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And lo, Pudentame emerged from the ether
and spake thus:
jeremy wrote:
"Pudentame" wrote in message
...
jeremy wrote:
Well, many of us sensed that it was coming.

Pentax had been a longtime user of Hoya optical glass, but to see Hoya
swallow Pentax us is disconcerting.

These mergers nearly always result in big changes, and I would not be
surprised if the "Pentax" name disappears entirely over the next few
years.

Actually, the "Pentax" name is one of the more valuable things Hoya's
getting from the deal. I expect they'll be keeping it at least in the
photography business.

The driving factor behind the merger appears to be Pentax and Hoya
combining their efforts in the medical imaging field.


No, the driving factor is that Pentax has lagged behind Canon and Nikon in
the digital camera business, and is now having to deal with competition from
companies that previously had not entered the camera business, like Sony,
Panasonic, Casio and HP. Pentax screwed up, big-time, and they are no
longer viable.


Well, press release I saw made a lot less mention of the digital camera
business than it did of medical imaging.


I wasn't even aware until I read the press release(s) that both Pentax
and Hoya have subsidiaries in the medical field.

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Aaron
http://www.fisheyegallery.com
http://www.singleservingphoto.com

Aaron December 22nd 06 07:27 PM

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And lo, jeremy emerged from the ether
and spake thus:

snip

It just may be the right time for me to embrace plastic bodies and buy some
Nikon or Canon digital gear. I'm just in the dumps over hearing that news
of Pentax's upcoming demise. We're going to become orphans.


If it's the price point that is deterring you from the metal bodied
world of digital SLRs, let me heartily recommend the Nikon D80. I am
definitely a Canonista at heart, but I had the opportunity to try one,
and for basically the same price as the Rebel XTi, you get a metal
body and basically the same pro-level features you might expect from a
higher-end camera. Manually-selectable AF points, RGB histograms, etc.

In that range of the market it looks like Nikon has a pretty nice
edge. The Rebel XTi is, of course, a very fine camera, and I do love
Canon's glass ever so much, but if you don't want to break the bank,
it does seem like the D80 is the best price/performance ratio.

--
Aaron
http://www.fisheyegallery.com
http://www.singleservingphoto.com

Mark Roberts December 22nd 06 08:42 PM

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jeremy wrote:

I can't think offhand of any major company that was helped in its financial
woes by being merged into a bigger, better-capitalized company.


Really? How about Nikon when it was bought by Mitsubishi?

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Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia
www.robertstech.com
412-687-2835





Pudentame December 22nd 06 11:59 PM

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Bob Hickey wrote:
"Pudentame" wrote in message
...
OTOH, my own experience indicates a smaller, more nimble vehicle allows
the driver avoid accidents he might not be able to avoid in a larger,
heavier, less maneuverable automobile. That's the

whole problem right there. Avoid, nimble, maneuverable? That's a joke,
right? I'd be happy to see "awake". I'd be happy to see "off the phone" I'd
be happy to see "make-up already done"..The limit of most peoples driving
knowledge is that soon after an accident, something will blow up right in
their face to save them. Mostly, after the crumple zone is done crumpling;
said air bag is much closer to the victim. Bob Hickey



Don't wear makeup; only use the cell phone after I've pulled off on the
shoulder to rat some a**hole b*&tard out ...

I generally try to anticipate what's going to happen ahead by the time
I get there, e.g. if everyone a mile or more down has their foot on the
brake, mine comes off the accelerator to start opening my stopping
distance *and* to give me room if I have to go off onto the shoulder to
let the idiot behind me rear-end the idiot in front of me.

I don't weave in and out of traffic, generally choosing the lane I'm
going to need to be in at my next major decision point; change lanes
when the first sign says lane ends 1 mile ...

Know where I'm going *before* I get in the car and turn the key ...

.... smaller, more nimble works for me. Mostly.

jeremy December 23rd 06 12:38 AM

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"Aaron" wrote in message
...

If it's the price point that is deterring you from the metal bodied
world of digital SLRs, let me heartily recommend the Nikon D80. I am
definitely a Canonista at heart, but I had the opportunity to try one,
and for basically the same price as the Rebel XTi, you get a metal
body and basically the same pro-level features you might expect from a
higher-end camera. Manually-selectable AF points, RGB histograms, etc.

In that range of the market it looks like Nikon has a pretty nice
edge. The Rebel XTi is, of course, a very fine camera, and I do love
Canon's glass ever so much, but if you don't want to break the bank,
it does seem like the D80 is the best price/performance ratio.

--


It's not so much the price point, it's the prospect of it all being eclipsed
by newer technology within less than a year. I am uncomfortable with that.
I want to create images, not get onto a never-ending upgrade treadmill.

Dante Stella says it better than I can:

http://www.dantestella.com/technical/digital.html



jeremy December 23rd 06 12:39 AM

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"Mark Roberts" wrote in message
...
jeremy wrote:

I can't think offhand of any major company that was helped in its
financial
woes by being merged into a bigger, better-capitalized company.


Really? How about Nikon when it was bought by Mitsubishi?

--
Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia
www.robertstech.com
412-687-2835





I didn't know that. When was Nikon bought out?




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