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$1000 for a 15mm AIS Nikkor!
I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price
worth it? Are there any alternatives? -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "Going down a dirty inner city side road I plotted Madness passed me by, she smiled hi, I nodded" - Sixto Rodriguez |
Dallas writes:
I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? See Ken Rockwell's review at http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1535.htm. Brief synopsis: o it's probably wider than you need or want o it's very susceptible to flare o sharpness isn't bad. He also suggests several alternatives, ranging from Tokina to the Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 AF. -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. |
Dallas writes:
I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? See Ken Rockwell's review at http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1535.htm. Brief synopsis: o it's probably wider than you need or want o it's very susceptible to flare o sharpness isn't bad. He also suggests several alternatives, ranging from Tokina to the Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 AF. -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. |
(Stephen H. Westin) writes:
Dallas writes: I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? See Ken Rockwell's review at http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1535.htm. Brief synopsis: o it's probably wider than you need or want These days, people may be wanting to run it on a D100/d70/Fuji S2, where it's not nearly as likely to be wider than you need or want. (I had a 17mm before I got a DSLR; I admit that I didn't have any strong desire for anything wider until after I got the DSLR.) He also suggests several alternatives, ranging from Tokina to the Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 AF. And let's not forget the Sigma 12-24mm. -- David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/ Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/ Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/ |
(Stephen H. Westin) writes:
Dallas writes: I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? See Ken Rockwell's review at http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1535.htm. Brief synopsis: o it's probably wider than you need or want These days, people may be wanting to run it on a D100/d70/Fuji S2, where it's not nearly as likely to be wider than you need or want. (I had a 17mm before I got a DSLR; I admit that I didn't have any strong desire for anything wider until after I got the DSLR.) He also suggests several alternatives, ranging from Tokina to the Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 AF. And let's not forget the Sigma 12-24mm. -- David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/ Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/ Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/ |
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 13:52:18 -0400, Stephen H. Westin wrote:
Dallas writes: I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? See Ken Rockwell's review at http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1535.htm. Brief synopsis: o it's probably wider than you need or want o it's very susceptible to flare o sharpness isn't bad. He also suggests several alternatives, ranging from Tokina to the Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 AF. Thanks Stephen. I will investigate the 14mm f/2.8 but I am looking for a rectilinear ultra wide angle. Isn't the 14mm a fisheye? BTW, I take everything Ken Rockwell says with a big bag of salt. Moreover, I don't even visit his site anymore since he started filling it with banners and other pop-up **** that lead to porno site and spyware loaders. -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "Going down a dirty inner city side road I plotted Madness passed me by, she smiled hi, I nodded" - Sixto Rodriguez |
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 13:52:18 -0400, Stephen H. Westin wrote:
Dallas writes: I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? See Ken Rockwell's review at http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1535.htm. Brief synopsis: o it's probably wider than you need or want o it's very susceptible to flare o sharpness isn't bad. He also suggests several alternatives, ranging from Tokina to the Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 AF. Thanks Stephen. I will investigate the 14mm f/2.8 but I am looking for a rectilinear ultra wide angle. Isn't the 14mm a fisheye? BTW, I take everything Ken Rockwell says with a big bag of salt. Moreover, I don't even visit his site anymore since he started filling it with banners and other pop-up **** that lead to porno site and spyware loaders. -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "Going down a dirty inner city side road I plotted Madness passed me by, she smiled hi, I nodded" - Sixto Rodriguez |
Dallas writes:
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 13:52:18 -0400, Stephen H. Westin wrote: Dallas writes: I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? See Ken Rockwell's review at http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1535.htm. Brief synopsis: o it's probably wider than you need or want o it's very susceptible to flare o sharpness isn't bad. He also suggests several alternatives, ranging from Tokina to the Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 AF. Thanks Stephen. I will investigate the 14mm f/2.8 but I am looking for a rectilinear ultra wide angle. Isn't the 14mm a fisheye? Nope, that would be the AF Fisheye-Nikkor 16mm f/2.8D. See http://nikonimaging.com/global/products/lens/af/wideangle/af_14mmf_28d/. Rackwell claims very little distortion in the 14mm AF lens, and even less in the 15mm AI-s. BTW, I take everything Ken Rockwell says with a big bag of salt. Moreover, I don't even visit his site anymore since he started filling it with banners and other pop-up **** that lead to porno site and spyware loaders. Yeah, I meant to warn others that they were heading into pop-up heaven. -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. |
Dallas writes:
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 13:52:18 -0400, Stephen H. Westin wrote: Dallas writes: I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? See Ken Rockwell's review at http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1535.htm. Brief synopsis: o it's probably wider than you need or want o it's very susceptible to flare o sharpness isn't bad. He also suggests several alternatives, ranging from Tokina to the Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 AF. Thanks Stephen. I will investigate the 14mm f/2.8 but I am looking for a rectilinear ultra wide angle. Isn't the 14mm a fisheye? Nope, that would be the AF Fisheye-Nikkor 16mm f/2.8D. See http://nikonimaging.com/global/products/lens/af/wideangle/af_14mmf_28d/. Rackwell claims very little distortion in the 14mm AF lens, and even less in the 15mm AI-s. BTW, I take everything Ken Rockwell says with a big bag of salt. Moreover, I don't even visit his site anymore since he started filling it with banners and other pop-up **** that lead to porno site and spyware loaders. Yeah, I meant to warn others that they were heading into pop-up heaven. -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. |
Dallas wrote:
I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? Definitely. If you really want better results, and lower cost, get a Voigtländer 15 mm (under $350). All you really need then is an old Leica body, a low cost Bessa-L body (under $100), or a Bessa-T (under $200). I have seen quite a few sample images from using that lens, and it is easily the best 15 mm results I have ever seen. Check out more information, and pricing at http://www.cameraquest.com That 15 mm has so much DoF, that see through the lens is not necessary. Using a shoe mount finder works quite well with such a wide view. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio http://www.allgstudio.com/gallery.html Updated! |
Dallas wrote:
I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? Definitely. If you really want better results, and lower cost, get a Voigtländer 15 mm (under $350). All you really need then is an old Leica body, a low cost Bessa-L body (under $100), or a Bessa-T (under $200). I have seen quite a few sample images from using that lens, and it is easily the best 15 mm results I have ever seen. Check out more information, and pricing at http://www.cameraquest.com That 15 mm has so much DoF, that see through the lens is not necessary. Using a shoe mount finder works quite well with such a wide view. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio http://www.allgstudio.com/gallery.html Updated! |
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Gordon Moat wrote: That 15 mm has so much DoF, that see through the lens is not necessary. Using a shoe mount finder works quite well with such a wide view. The hyperfocal distance for 15/3.5 is more than 2 meters. The first test photos I took with a 16/3.5 fisheye made it very clear: dof is still an issue. -- The Electronic Monk was a labor-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. [...] Video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electronic Monks believed things for you, [...] -- Douglas Adams in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency |
In article ,
Gordon Moat wrote: That 15 mm has so much DoF, that see through the lens is not necessary. Using a shoe mount finder works quite well with such a wide view. The hyperfocal distance for 15/3.5 is more than 2 meters. The first test photos I took with a 16/3.5 fisheye made it very clear: dof is still an issue. -- The Electronic Monk was a labor-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. [...] Video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electronic Monks believed things for you, [...] -- Douglas Adams in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency |
In article ,
Gordon Moat wrote: That 15 mm has so much DoF, that see through the lens is not necessary. Using a shoe mount finder works quite well with such a wide view. The hyperfocal distance for 15/3.5 is more than 2 meters. The first test photos I took with a 16/3.5 fisheye made it very clear: dof is still an issue. -- The Electronic Monk was a labor-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. [...] Video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electronic Monks believed things for you, [...] -- Douglas Adams in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency |
Philip Homburg wrote:
In article , Gordon Moat wrote: That 15 mm has so much DoF, that see through the lens is not necessary. Using a shoe mount finder works quite well with such a wide view. The hyperfocal distance for 15/3.5 is more than 2 meters. The first test photos I took with a 16/3.5 fisheye made it very clear: dof is still an issue. Very true, so I should qualify my statement a bit. The Voigtländer 15 mm has distance markings on the lens barrel. Very good results can be accomplished by guessing the distance, or using an external rangefinder to set the distance by the lens scale. That ability to set the distance with a reasonable degree of accuracy is what I meant by not needing to look through the lens. In practice, setting the distance in that manner can give quite good results. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio http://www.allgstudio.com/gallery.html Updated! |
Philip Homburg wrote:
In article , Gordon Moat wrote: That 15 mm has so much DoF, that see through the lens is not necessary. Using a shoe mount finder works quite well with such a wide view. The hyperfocal distance for 15/3.5 is more than 2 meters. The first test photos I took with a 16/3.5 fisheye made it very clear: dof is still an issue. Very true, so I should qualify my statement a bit. The Voigtländer 15 mm has distance markings on the lens barrel. Very good results can be accomplished by guessing the distance, or using an external rangefinder to set the distance by the lens scale. That ability to set the distance with a reasonable degree of accuracy is what I meant by not needing to look through the lens. In practice, setting the distance in that manner can give quite good results. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio http://www.allgstudio.com/gallery.html Updated! |
"Dallas" wrote in message
.za... I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? Still got the F2? Only the Voigtlander 15mm is available in Nikon mount, but requires your mirror be locked up. The accessory finder simply replaces your prism. See- http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt%20SL.htm -- Martin Francis http://www.sixbysix.co.uk "Go not to Usenet for counsel, for it will say both no, and yes, and no, and yes...." |
"Dallas" wrote in message
.za... I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? Still got the F2? Only the Voigtlander 15mm is available in Nikon mount, but requires your mirror be locked up. The accessory finder simply replaces your prism. See- http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt%20SL.htm -- Martin Francis http://www.sixbysix.co.uk "Go not to Usenet for counsel, for it will say both no, and yes, and no, and yes...." |
"Martin Francis" writes:
"Dallas" wrote in message .za... I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? Still got the F2? Only the Voigtlander 15mm is available in Nikon mount, but requires your mirror be locked up. The accessory finder simply replaces your prism. See- http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt%20SL.htm Or, for a couple hundred more, there's the 12mm f:5.6! -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. |
"Martin Francis" writes:
"Dallas" wrote in message .za... I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? Still got the F2? Only the Voigtlander 15mm is available in Nikon mount, but requires your mirror be locked up. The accessory finder simply replaces your prism. See- http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt%20SL.htm Or, for a couple hundred more, there's the 12mm f:5.6! -- -Stephen H. Westin Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors. |
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 19:29:27 +0000, Martin Francis wrote:
"Dallas" wrote in message .za... I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? Still got the F2? Only the Voigtlander 15mm is available in Nikon mount, but requires your mirror be locked up. The accessory finder simply replaces your prism. See- http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt%20SL.htm I still got the F2. Will never part with it, although I need to find a new prism. -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "Going down a dirty inner city side road I plotted Madness passed me by, she smiled hi, I nodded" - Sixto Rodriguez |
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 19:29:27 +0000, Martin Francis wrote:
"Dallas" wrote in message .za... I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? Still got the F2? Only the Voigtlander 15mm is available in Nikon mount, but requires your mirror be locked up. The accessory finder simply replaces your prism. See- http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt%20SL.htm I still got the F2. Will never part with it, although I need to find a new prism. -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "Going down a dirty inner city side road I plotted Madness passed me by, she smiled hi, I nodded" - Sixto Rodriguez |
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 19:29:27 +0000, Martin Francis wrote:
"Dallas" wrote in message .za... I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? Still got the F2? Only the Voigtlander 15mm is available in Nikon mount, but requires your mirror be locked up. The accessory finder simply replaces your prism. See- http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt%20SL.htm I still got the F2. Will never part with it, although I need to find a new prism. -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "Going down a dirty inner city side road I plotted Madness passed me by, she smiled hi, I nodded" - Sixto Rodriguez |
Is the 10-22 mm lens a full frame lens? ....does it cover 24x36mm?
A true wide angle lens? Max "Annika1980" skrev i en meddelelse ... From: Dallas I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? You jumped into that cesspool. Better learn to swim. Too bad you didn't get the 20D with the new 10-22mm lens. Bet you feel pretty stupid right now, huh? LOL! |
Is the 10-22 mm lens a full frame lens? ....does it cover 24x36mm?
A true wide angle lens? Max "Annika1980" skrev i en meddelelse ... From: Dallas I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price worth it? Are there any alternatives? You jumped into that cesspool. Better learn to swim. Too bad you didn't get the 20D with the new 10-22mm lens. Bet you feel pretty stupid right now, huh? LOL! |
I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price
worth it? Are there any alternatives? BRBR Go with the modern 14mm f/2.8 AF-Nikkor. The 15mm is physically larger due to being an older design and image wise on a par or less than the 14mm,--which is a rectilinear lens. By the way,--$1000 for a 15mm Nikkor is not really that big a bargain. You can find them on ebay in mint- condition with filters and case for less. dan |
I see one on KEH for a grand. Looks like a stunner, but is that price
worth it? Are there any alternatives? BRBR Go with the modern 14mm f/2.8 AF-Nikkor. The 15mm is physically larger due to being an older design and image wise on a par or less than the 14mm,--which is a rectilinear lens. By the way,--$1000 for a 15mm Nikkor is not really that big a bargain. You can find them on ebay in mint- condition with filters and case for less. dan |
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